NFHS 2017-18 Rules Changes

[coach41]

Funny - I worked some 7th grade (boys and girls) tournament games over the weekend with a couple of officials from my group in the Bay Area.

We talked about the new rules but habits die hard. I was using one hand to report though I'll switch to two hand eventually. I still have some kids and adult league games I work so plenty of time to practice.

The new warning rule is interesting though I didn't apply it. I had a bang-bang play that I called a block and the coach went ballistic. She was yelling at me and stomping her feet. After I reported the foul I issued the technical. I assume that would be considered a major situation!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by coach41

... the coach went ballistic. She was yelling at me and stomping her feet ... I issued the technical ...

After which she asked, "Don't you have to warn me first?"

[SC Official]

The less I have to worry about anything other than the behavior of the coach, the easier my job is. We've always had the tools to deal with misbehavior; now we have even more tools with the box expanding down to the end line.

Originally Posted by coach41

The new warning rule is interesting though I didn't apply it. I had a bang-bang play that I called a block and the coach went ballistic. She was yelling at me and stomping her feet. After I reported the foul I issued the technical. I assume that would be considered a major situation!

Assigners and associations will all have varying expectations of infractions considered "major" or not. However, under the new rules, she's at the very least getting her warning, and if she protests after that (which is probable), she's getting the seatbelt.

IMO, if a coach continues to act up after the warning, (s)he wants to get whacked, so I'll oblige.

[Rich]

I don't mind giving a coach a free one under most circumstances. I'm not perfect and neither are they.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by SC Official

...with the box expanding down to the end line.

Nope. Read it again. Smiley face.

[UNIgiantslayers]

Our state allowed optional 2-hand reporting last year. I'm going to camp toward the end of June and can't wait to see if I can tell who was using it last year and who is new to it this year. One of my partners said he'd buy the first round if more than 5 people at camp have trouble with it. I'm thinking he'll be ponying up.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Our state allowed optional 2-hand reporting last year. I'm going to camp toward the end of June and can't wait to see if I can tell who was using it last year and who is new to it this year. One of my partners said he'd buy the first round if more than 5 people at camp have trouble with it. I'm thinking he'll be ponying up.

The issue with camp games (and summer ball, AAU, and lots of other off-season basketball) are all of the illegal numbers. I turn my hand sideways for digits 6 and greater (e.g. "7" = sideways 2). This will be tricky for officials and table personnel new to 2H reporting.


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[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

The issue with camp games (and summer ball, AAU, and lots of other off-season basketball) are all of the illegal numbers. I turn my hand sideways for digits 6 and greater (e.g. "7" = sideways 2). This will be tricky for officials and table personnel new to 2H reporting.


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That's what a guy I work with does too. During summer ball or AAU where I'm not being observed, I just yell it 3 times from the other end of the court and put the ball back in play

[bucky]

Originally Posted by coach41

The new warning rule is interesting though I didn't apply it. I had a bang-bang play that I called a block and the coach went ballistic. She was yelling at me and stomping her feet. After I reported the foul I issued the technical. I assume that would be considered a major situation!

"Ballistic"? "Yelling at me"? "Stomping her feet"? In a 7th grade game?

This is one big problem that should never happen at this level. Coaches should be teaching that coaches coach. They should be teaching utmost respect for any official decision involving judgement. I could go on and on but it would be pointless I guess. AD's need to do a better job of hiring coaches, surely at these levels.

[Freddy]

With the onset of two-handed reporting to the table, I'm looking for images of officials doing that. If anybody has any to share with me, please PM me or respond with a link to where I can access them.
Thanx....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

With the onset of two-handed reporting to the table ...

Breaking news. This just in. The NFHS has released two hand reporting guidelines and has indicated that three point field goal attempts will also be signaled by two hands. When a player attempts a field goal from behind the three point arc, the nearest official will signal with two hands at head height, showing two fingers on one hand, and one finger on the other.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Breaking news. This just in. The NFHS has released two hand reporting guidelines and has indicated that three point field goal attempts will also be signaled by two hands. When a player attempts a field goal from behind the three point arc, the nearest official will signal with two hands at head height, showing two fingers on one hand, and one finger on the other.

Which finger on the hand with one?


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Which finger on the hand with one?

It depends on what information you want to convey to the coaches, and fans.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It depends on what information you want to convey to the coaches, and fans.

And also what information the fans want to convey to the players.

[Mregor]

My only concern, and I'm not sure if someone already posted because I didn't read all 6 pages, I hope the coaches don't see this as a wasted opportunity like they are entitled to a freebie each game. Like taking a TO down by 12 with 0:30 remaining just because they can. No free shots. I know some coaches who will see it that way and some who would never consider it. I'd rather not stop a running clock for any reason.