NFHS 2017-18 Rules Changes

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I see it as 14 MORE feet that we have to police.

Why would you think that?

[rockyroad]

Making the box bigger is not going to change coach behavior. The coaches who are idiots will still be idiots - the fact that he/she has 14 more feet to roam will just make it easier for everyone in the building to see him/her being an idiot.

The official warning will help a lot of coaches. Sometimes we get wound up because we see things going sideways. An official warning will let those of us who can control ourselves know it is time to exercise that control. And for those of us who are idiots...nothing will change that, so take care of business.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Making the box bigger is not going to change coach behavior. The coaches who are idiots will still be idiots - the fact that he/she has 14 more feet to roam will just make it easier for everyone in the building to see him/her being an idiot.

You are right, I am a little tired of having to worry about if a coach is in the box or not. And at least this gives them more room and being in the box is a lesser issue IMO. I hardly ever work a college game and worry about a coach being out of the box.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You are right, I am a little tired of having to worry about if a coach is in the box or not. And at least this gives them more room and being in the box is a lesser issue IMO. I hardly ever work a college game and worry about a coach being out of the box.

Peace

When they're out of the box in a college game, it's usually, "Holy ****, look at where HE is." Whack.

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by Rich

When they're out of the box in a college game, it's usually, "Holy ****, look at where HE is." Whack.

And NCAA-M and NCAA-W are recommending extending the coaching box to 38'

[Nevadaref]

There is too much involvement in the game from the coaches. We have gone from captains talking to officials and picking FT shooters to coaches doing that, from no coaching box to 6 feet, to 14 feet, to 28 feet, and from players requesting time-outs to coaches doing it during play.

The rules committee has lost the proper balance and coaches are now over-emphasized. It's unfortunate. The trend is now to give coaches more freedoms and more power, yet less responsibility.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am a little tired of having to worry about if a coach is in the box or not. And at least this gives them more room and being in the box is a lesser issue ...

Bingo.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is too much involvement in the game from the coaches. We have gone from captains talking to officials and picking FT shooters to coaches doing that, from no coaching box to 6 feet, to 14 feet, to 28 feet, and from players requesting time-outs to coaches doing it during play.

The rules committee has lost the proper balance and coaches are now over-emphasized. It's unfortunate. The trend is now to give coaches more freedoms and more power, yet less responsibility.

Would you prefer this coaching box:

[Nevadaref]

Is it filled with water?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is too much involvement in the game from the coaches. We have gone from captains talking to officials and picking FT shooters to coaches doing that, from no coaching box to 6 feet, to 14 feet, to 28 feet, and from players requesting time-outs to coaches doing it during play.

The rules committee has lost the proper balance and coaches are now over-emphasized. It's unfortunate. The trend is now to give coaches more freedoms and more power, yet less responsibility.

Coaches in every sport that I can think of are apart of the game and the decision making process. I really do not care either way. We have tools to take care of them if they get out of hand. We really need to get over it honestly.

Peace

[Rich]

As a part-time HS administrator, I've learned that the coaches are the ones that (we hope) stay through many classes of kids. Kids and their parents come and go -- it's the coach that provides continuity of the program.

For some reason, some officials think they should be marginalized / minimized -- I find that ludicrous.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Is it filled with water?

Soundproof?

[coach41]

Funny - I worked some 7th grade (boys and girls) tournament games over the weekend with a couple of officials from my group in the Bay Area.

We talked about the new rules but habits die hard. I was using one hand to report though I'll switch to two hand eventually. I still have some kids and adult league games I work so plenty of time to practice.

The new warning rule is interesting though I didn't apply it. I had a bang-bang play that I called a block and the coach went ballistic. She was yelling at me and stomping her feet. After I reported the foul I issued the technical. I assume that would be considered a major situation!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by coach41

... the coach went ballistic. She was yelling at me and stomping her feet ... I issued the technical ...

After which she asked, "Don't you have to warn me first?"