NFHS 2017-18 Rules Changes

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I'm not the PC police, but you're lucky there aren't too many female officials on this forum. That's a provocative thing to say.

If they were offended, so what? The reality is that most people pay attention to Men's basketball and the NBA. The Women's side is spending too much time trying to be like the WNBA which is run by the NBA. I do not think that appeals to many that support high school sports. And I have to listen all year about why the Women's college does something and we should adopt it. Well I do not want NBA rules to be NF rules, so if this is a problem for Women's officials for me or others to not accept those rules, so be it.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If they were offended, so what? The reality is that most people pay attention to Men's basketball and the NBA. The Women's side is spending too much time trying to be like the WNBA which is run by the NBA. I do not think that appeals to many that support high school sports. And I have to listen all year about why the Women's college does something and we should adopt it. Well I do not want NBA rules to be NF rules, so if this is a problem for Women's officials for me or others to not accept those rules, so be it.

Peace

I'm with you. Seeing above that people think NBA mechanics have a place in HS hoops amazes me.

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm with you. Seeing above that people think NBA mechanics have a place in HS hoops amazes me.

Why don't/shouldn't they have a place in HS hoops?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Why don't/shouldn't they have a place in HS hoops?

Everybody that is in the NBA are professionals and very well trained and even evaluated on every little detail. We are not that even at the NCAA level in some cases. The table people are paid to do a job at the NBA. You might be lucky other than D1 if the person doing the shot clock is not some kid they got from the Lacrosse team. So many of the things the NBA tries or does is because they are dealing with much more competent and extensively trained officials. There are many officials that do not know when to rotate and we want to add things that they cannot even do properly that would be basic at the NBA level.

Peace

[SC Official]

Some of the NCAAW mechanics (which are also NBA mechanics) I love and wish we had in NFHS. All those mechanics are not anything that require a higher "skill" level than the average high school referee.

That being said, I agree that NBA mechanics don't belong in high school simply because NBA officials, the best in the world, use them. (I think they call that argument post hoc ergo propter hoc, but it's been awhile since I took philosophy.)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Some of the NCAAW mechanics (which are also NBA mechanics) I love and wish we had in NFHS. All those mechanics are not anything that require a higher "skill" level than the average high school referee.

That being said, I agree that NBA mechanics don't belong in high school simply because NBA officials, the best in the world, use them. (I think they call that argument post hoc ergo propter hoc, but it's been awhile since I took philosophy.)

Yes, we have mechanics because "the best in the world" use them so that is great logic for a level that has totally different rules and philosophies on all kinds of things.

Peace

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yes, we have mechanics because "the best in the world" use them so that is great logic for a level that has totally different rules and philosophies on all kinds of things.

Peace

I'm not sure if you could tell or not, but I was agreeing with you and Rich, not disagreeing. There are NBA mechanics I prefer to NFHS, but we shouldn't implement them in high school just for the sake of being like the NBA.

[IncorrectCall]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Some of the NCAAW mechanics (which are also NBA mechanics) I love and wish we had in NFHS. All those mechanics are not anything that require a higher "skill" level than the average high school referee.

That being said, I agree that NBA mechanics don't belong in high school simply because NBA officials, the best in the world, use them. (I think they call that argument post hoc ergo propter hoc, but it's been awhile since I took philosophy.)

Agreed with your last point - but using a set of mechanics because an entity (NBA) puts the most time and money (in the form of research) of any other entity in order to put out the best product for the game is a great reason to use them.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IncorrectCall

Agreed with your last point - but using a set of mechanics because an entity (NBA) puts the most time and money (in the form of research) of any other entity in order to put out the best product for the game is a great reason to use them.

Is the NF going to put in a system to invest in the officiating staff that the NBA uses?

Peace

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Everybody that is in the NBA are professionals and very well trained and even evaluated on every little detail. We are not that even at the NCAA level in some cases. The table people are paid to do a job at the NBA. You might be lucky other than D1 if the person doing the shot clock is not some kid they got from the Lacrosse team. So many of the things the NBA tries or does is because they are dealing with much more competent and extensively trained officials. There are many officials that do not know when to rotate and we want to add things that they cannot even do properly that would be basic at the NBA level.

Peace

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