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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 10:03pm
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The HC went nuts and was in his face a long while before he issued the 2nd T.
That official just kept backing up all the way across the court and let the coach follow him. It wasn't until he backed into the crowd that he realized he wasn't getting help from his partners and had to send him packing himself. Partners needed to step up there.
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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 10:21pm
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That official just kept backing up all the way across the court and let the coach follow him. It wasn't until he backed into the crowd that he realized he wasn't getting help from his partners and had to send him packing himself. Partners needed to step up there.
Actually it was the partner that gave the T. But why it took that long is beyond me. I think this is why we have to get rid of the addige, "We should not give both Ts on a coach." That has always been silly to me and here is why it is silly. And I would not have been backing up all the way across the court either.

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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 10:30pm
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Actually it was the partner that gave the T. But why it took that long is beyond me. I think this is why we have to get rid of the addige, "We should not give both Ts on a coach." That has always been silly to me and here is why it is silly. And I would not have been backing up all the way across the court either.



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I assigned 2 games where an official double tapped the coach. In both instances, it's cause the official felt like it was his duty to get close to the table and report the technical like it was just another foul.

This doesn't fit that scenario. That coach needed to go.....sooner.
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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 10:56pm
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Here is the kid requesting a timeout.



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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 10:59pm
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And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.
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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 11:06pm
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And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.
Don't make an excuse for the coach's crap behavior Rich. Although I would have just T'd and reported from where I stood, this coach's behavior stands on it's own. As soon as I take 4-5 steps away and notice he's coming after me, he's done. I would've tossed my partner too for that crappy attempt at helping out.
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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 11:07pm
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Don't make an excuse for the coach's crap behavior Rich. Although I would have just T'd and reported from where I stood, this coach's behavior stands on it's own. As soon as I take 4-5 steps away and notice he's coming after me, he's done. I would've tossed my partner too for that crappy attempt at helping out.
Not a single excuse made for the coach. He lasted longer than he should've.

This is an independent observation I've made a few times this season, including last night when I called a head coach technical and my partner asked me "did you report it"?

No, I brought my hands together into a T and hit my whistle. Everyone knew, including the table and the coach. I went right to the C to get opposite the table. If he wants to get me, he's gonna have to come a long way.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 12:47am
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Here is the kid requesting a timeout.



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Not sure I want to pour gasoline on this fire, but in any other circumstance, #1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.

Also, in reference to Rich's comment about coaches believing teenagers over professionals, you're right, but I wouldn't be surprised if the coach never sees THIS film. Unfortunately, I bet he watches his manager's sideline film, doesn't see clear evidence of the timeout request, and still thinks he's right. Too bad.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 11:40am
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Not sure I want to pour gasoline on this fire, but in any other circumstance, #1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.
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I'm confident that at that point, many of the blue team members were fully authorized to leave at any time.
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Here is a follow up article on the game. The Foothills team still advanced because of the playoff structure but apparently played their next game without the head coach due to a one game suspension. The coach comments on the player calling timeout. Obviously in the heat of the moment, his emotions got the best of him.

Foothills Christian coach suspended one game - The San Diego Union-Tribune
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#1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.
Maybe he's going to the little boys room? Is that an authorized reason?

A player shall not: Leave the playing court for an unauthorized reason to demonstrate resentment, disgust or intimidation

Am I correct to assume that this is only for "players", not for substitutes, or bench personnel, or other team members?

Also, this refers to leaving the playing court, not leaving the gymnasium? Right?
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 04:55pm
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I certainly hope that one of the officials told the coach that he had used up all of his timeouts.

The scorer shall: Record the time-out information charged to each team (who and
when) and notify a team and its coach, through an official, whenever that team is
granted its final allotted charged time-out.


Whenever I do that, the coach almost immediately tells his players not to request a timeout.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 11:00am
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During a time out all players are considered bench personnel and they are able to leave the gym.
I assume that's sarcasm? (I did not read the entire thread or watch the video)
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 11:01am
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I assume that's sarcasm? (I did not read the entire thread or watch the video)
I was guessing so myself.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 12:41am
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I assigned 2 games where an official double tapped the coach. In both instances, it's cause the official felt like it was his duty to get close to the table and report the technical like it was just another foul.

This doesn't fit that scenario. That coach needed to go.....sooner.
I'm sure I'm misinterpreting your comment but when you say get close to the table, and follow that with report the technical like it was just another foul, is this what you expect/teach? If it was just another foul (which it is), then the official needs to get to the reporting area (or where the scorekeeper can see you, depending on which suburb of Rome you live...) and report it, and then move on. Are you saying that normal fouls need to be reported closer to the table? Or for that matter that techs need to be reported further away from the table??
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