Purdue @ Michigan plays (Video)

[JRutledge]

Play #1:


Play #2:


Play #3:


Peace

[bucky]

1) Looked like obvious foul to me.
2) Good help from C but wish he was more closed down/towards play.
3) Basket counts.

[chapmaja]

I have to preface my response by saying I am a Michigan fan, so I might be biased.

A) Foul on Purdue

B) Did not watch the video because my computer doesn't like YouTube tonight

C) Basket counts

[Camron Rust]

#1. That should be a foul every day.

#2. Good help...it hit the butt of the white player.

#3. Count it!

[JRutledge]

I think the first play is the only controversial play in the bunch. Full disclosure, I am a huge Michigan fan and that is why I post many of their game plays. But I do not think this is a foul. I think the defender got to the ball first and the fall was more about his momentum of being blocked. I did not see anything in the close up that told me otherwise and I hope in a real game I do not call a foul either.

Peace

[just another ref]

Getting a little piece of the ball does not make it okay to do a cross body block on an airborne shooter.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Getting a little piece of the ball does not make it okay to do a cross body block on an airborne shooter.

He did not cross body block anyone. He blocked the ball. You tend to be off balance when you have someone put their hand on the object you are trying to force into the basket.

Peace

[bucky]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think the first play is the only controversial play in the bunch. Full disclosure, I am a huge Michigan fan and that is why I post many of their game plays. But I do not think this is a foul. I think the defender got to the ball first and the fall was more about his momentum of being blocked. I did not see anything in the close up that told me otherwise and I hope in a real game I do not call a foul either.

Peace

Looks to me as if there was some torso to torso contact too.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

Looks to me as if there was some torso to torso contact too.

I agree, but the contact with the ball was first. The rest was incidental contact to the block.

Peace

[Rich]

I'm happy with DJ's pass on #1.

[just another ref]

After further review, along with the body contact, there appears to be considerable contact on the arm as well.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

After further review, along with the body contact, there appears to be considerable contact on the arm as well.

There appears to be some arm contact for sure. But I see contact with the ball first and after that you will have contact with the arm. I hardly ever see a block shot attempt near the basket where there is no contact with other parts of the body. Just is not very likely IMO.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There appears to be some arm contact for sure. But I see contact with the ball first and after that you will have contact with the arm. I hardly ever see a block shot attempt near the basket where there is no contact with other parts of the body. Just is not very likely IMO.

Peace

Look at the 36 second mark, when it zooms in. The ball is still in the hand of the shooter. The hand of the defender is past the ball. There is contact on the arm, followed by the contact on the torso. This is a foul.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Look at the 36 second mark, when it zooms in. The ball is still in the hand of the shooter. The hand of the defender is past the ball. There is contact on the arm, followed by the contact on the torso. This is a foul.

OK, but if the ball was contacted first and the follow through involved some arm contact, in my world that is not a foul. That is expected on some level. And if there is some torso contact, then so be it as well. If he used all that arm contact and body contact to get the block, different story.

Peace

[Rich]

That's why those guys make the big bucks. Much easier to officiate play if you think contact = foul.

DJ had a good look and passed. That's good enough for me.