Video Request: Duke-FSU Travel/backcourt?

[frezer11]

Duke-Florida State game, 30 seconds left in 2nd half. Duke player tries to make a pass near midcourt, he may have traveled first, I think his foot was on the midcourt line when he threw it, and I think the ball bounces on the mid court line.

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[BlueDevilRef]

I thought in live action the ball bounced on the line as well. But it was likely just camera angle. Cameras in Cameron are so dang far away most of time.

[JRutledge]

Here is the play.



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[bucky]

Foot nearly hits line while still having ball too. Too inconclusive. T out of position and why was he waving C up?

[frezer11]

Thanks JRut, Appreciate it.

Looks like the ball hits the line to me. I actually like that the T waves the C up, I think its good communication to get your partner to take over a play on his side of the court. Only problem is that the original T moved down before the new T could get into suitable position to referee the midcourt line. With 30 seconds left, there's an argument to be made that it didn't matter, though a turnover there and FSU could potentially cut the score to 4, so who knows.

[Nevadaref]

Tough to tell if either his foot (before releasing the pass) or the ball hit the line.
Crew mechanics are a mess. With 30 seconds left the T waves his partner up from the C, then bails out before the partner can get into position to cover the play. Also note that the Lead never moves from the D in Duke on the end line. He doesn't rotate at all. Strange stuff.
Would have been better had the T simply stayed put and officiated the play at the division line.

[Raymond]

I don't know or care if the ball hit the line. I don't like that the Trail left the play and tried to force a rotation leaving no top-side coverage of the play. He should have stayed at the division and officiated the play until the Lead rotated and forced the Center to the top-side of the play.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't know or care if the ball hit the line. I don't like that the Trail left the play and tried to force a rotation leaving no top-side coverage of the play. He should have stayed at the division and officiated the play until the Lead rotated and forced the Center to the top-side of the play.

There's also this:

There's no reason the C can't come up and officiate that regardless of what the T and L do.

Crew got caught doing something they'd get away with 99% of the time. This may (or may not) be that 1%. But nobody was on the division line to tell for sure.

[Rob1968]

The contact of a ball with the floor is a spot only 2 1/2 inches round. From the camera angle, the ball appears to be several inches away from hitting the line.

[BryanV21]

Personally, at this point, I don't care that the ball may have hit the division line. The game is over. I'm more concerned with the fact no official was in position to make a definitive call on the play.

For the record, I have no problem with the T waving up the C. There's a matchup on the other side of the floor, and the defender in front of him starts running over there to double-team the dribbler.

Nor do I have an issue with the lead not moving, as he has a matchup in front of him, along with a second defender right there near that matchup.

But people are correct to criticize the T/former T for not staying high until his partner was up by the division line. The T/former T has no matchup to move down to. He's moving down for no reason.