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Old Thu Feb 23, 2017, 09:22pm
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9.2.2 SITUATION C: A1 scores a basket. After the ball goes through the net, B1
grabs it and makes a move toward the end line as though preparing to make a
throw-in. However, B1 never legally steps out of bounds, both feet remain
inbounds. B1 immediately passes the ball up the court to a fast-breaking teammate,
who scores a basket. RULING: Cancel Team B's goal, throw-in violation on
B1. The ball was at B1's disposal after the made basket to make a throw-in. B1
must be out of bounds to make a legal throw-in. (7-4-3; 7-5-7)
Thanks B Mac...That should quiet down the doubters
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:08pm
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The case play has the player passing to a teammate.
We've all seen momentary confusion after a made basket.

I wonder how we would rule if the player got the ball at 1.5 sec and...

1) just stood there inbounds, holding the ball, as the clock ran out.

2) ...or stood there inbounds dribbling in place, as the clock ran out.

3) ...or stood inbounds and slowly dribbled toward his bench as the clock ran out.

Different shades of grey?
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 12:24pm
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The case play has the player passing to a teammate.
We've all seen momentary confusion after a made basket.

I wonder how we would rule if the player got the ball at 1.5 sec and...

1) just stood there inbounds, holding the ball, as the clock ran out.

2) ...or stood there inbounds dribbling in place, as the clock ran out.

3) ...or stood inbounds and slowly dribbled toward his bench as the clock ran out.

Different shades of grey?
Sometimes you need to officiate.

And, in the plays above, it might depend on the score. In the OP, the score was tied and the team was trying to advance the ball quickly to get off a shot. Don't let them have that advantage. If both teams are happy going to OT, or if A is up and B is out of TOs, then with 1.5, you can probably let time expire.
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 10:51pm
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Sometimes you need to officiate.

And, in the plays above, it might depend on the score. In the OP, the score was tied and the team was trying to advance the ball quickly to get off a shot. Don't let them have that advantage. If both teams are happy going to OT, or if A is up and B is out of TOs, then with 1.5, you can probably let time expire.
I read nothing of the team trying to "advance the ball quickly to get off a shot" in the OP. Also, I do not feel that this is a violation "immediately". There are too many things we do not know about the scenario in the OP. The cited case play is pretty obvious as to what the team is doing. They grab the ball, step towards the endline, and start quickly advancing the ball while not going fully out of bounds for the throw-in. Clearly the team attempted to take it out of bounds but did not fully do so. I think we have all had that play at one point, at least if you have a few years of officiating experience. That case is not the OP. Now, regarding the OP and the other listed plays, there are many reasons why the players would take a dribble up court. Maybe he was just about to give the ball to a teammate to inbound. Maybe he thought the time expired. Who knows? Anyway, once he has it, start a count. By the time you get to a second arm swing, time expires anyway. So what is the big deal with that? What else are you going to do, whistle a violation before the 1.5 seconds expires, put time on the clock after a conference with your partners(or go to monitor for some states), explain the call to the coaches, and give the ball to the other team with a chance to win? Seems like a silly way to handle it. Rather, be patient, let the time expire, and head to OT.

(I know, fine coming for number of words in a post)
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