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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:22am
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putting ball in play.....

A1 is under his basket for a throw in with 3 seconds on the shot clock. he throws the ball to A2 how is near the mid court line, it deflects off of A2 finger tips and goes into the back court and the 30 sec shot clock goes off with the ball on the floor at the foul line in the back court. no team or player established at this point...... where is the ball put back in play. am thinking original baseline where the throw in started or at the point were the horn sounded?
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:26am
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The ball is put in play at the spot closest to where the ball was when the violation occurred. The ball was legally touched inbounds, so the throw-in is completed. Since the ball was at the free throw line near the opponent's basket, it will put in play on the endline at the lane line extended at the opponent's end of the court.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:27am
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Under what rules are you playing?

The NFHS does not provide shot clock rules.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:27am
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A1 is under his basket for a throw in with 3 seconds on the shot clock. he throws the ball to A2 how is near the mid court line, it deflects off of A2 finger tips and goes into the back court and the 30 sec shot clock goes off with the ball on the floor at the foul line in the back court. no team or player established at this point...... where is the ball put back in play. am thinking original baseline where the throw in started or at the point were the horn sounded?
Ask yourself, where did the 30-second violation occur?
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:37am
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Under what rules are you playing?

The NFHS does not provide shot clock rules.
Not sure that matters. NFHS does provide rules about where to inbound after a violation.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 09:57am
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Not sure that matters. NFHS does provide rules about where to inbound after a violation.

Under NFHS rules:
1. What violation occurred?
2. Where did the violation occur?

Under NCAA rules:
1. Where did the violation occur and where is the ball inbounded?

Under NBA rules:
1. Where did the violation occur and where is the ball inbounded?

Under FIBA rules:
1. Where did the violation occur and where is the ball inbounded?
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 10:03am
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Under NFHS rules:
1. What violation occurred?
2. Where did the violation occur?

Under NCAA rules:
1. Where did the violation occur and where is the ball inbounded?
Let's ignore NBA and FIBA for the moment. An NBA ref wouldn't ask this and Levittown, NY isn't a hotbed of international basketball.

In both NCAA and NFHS, the ball is put in play at the spot closest to the violation. In the case of a shot clock violation, this would be at the spot closest to where the ball was when the shot clock horn sounded. (Obviously, FED rules do not address a shot clock; we must assume NCAA rules, since NY girls use NCAA rules.)

In either case, my first post contains the correct answer.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 10:07am
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And if he is just a fan of the NBA who owns a satelite dish and is wondering why the referees always put the ball in play at the FT line extended?
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 10:18am
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And if he is just a fan of the NBA who owns a satelite dish and is wondering why the referees always put the ball in play at the FT line extended?
Fair point. Scat, if you're working the game, put it on the endline under the opponent's basket. If you're watching the Knicks, then I feel sorry for you. No, wait. . . If you're watching the Knicks, then the ball would put in play at the free throw line extended. If you're watching the Olympics, can I borrow your time machine?
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