Throw-In Issue

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... not to say anything that does not define the actual rule.

Originally Posted by You

... treat the throw-in plane as a wall they can't reach through until the pass is released.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... this was a "glass wall".

"You can't reach through the glass wall until the throwin pass is released" pretty much covers all relevant rules.

Any other circumstances that I missed?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"You can't reach through the glass wall until the throwin pass is released" pretty much covers all relevant rules.

Any other circumstances that I missed?

That is too much if you were going to say anything else. I think "Glass wall" makes the right point. If they do not know what they can do on the release that is on them or their coaching staff.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If they do not know what they can do on the release that is on them or their coaching staff.

I was talking about Catholic middle school games, so let's put it mostly on the coaching staff, and not totally on the kids (although kids do tend to forget what they were taught (this coming from a retired middle school teacher)).

On second thought, forget it, let's go back to "them or their coaching staff". That's just about right.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"You can't reach through the glass wall until the throwin pass is released" pretty much covers all relevant rules.

Any other circumstances that I missed?

I think if you said "glass wall" the kids would look at you like you were from Mars. I will tell player on D to not reach over line.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

... not reach over line.

Sounds good. Just don't simply tell them not to cross the line, because they may think that that refers to their feet and not their hands and feet.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sounds good. Just don't simply tell them not to cross the line, because they may think that that refers to their feet and not their hands and feet.

If you are trying to give a rules clinic every situation you will take games hours. Not sure why this seems to be your goal, but we tell players and coaches a lot of things that are incomplete and do not tell the entire story.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you are trying to give a rules clinic every situation you will take games hours.

Big difference between a high school varsity game and a Catholic middle school game. Most high school varsity games require little, or no, preventive officiating. Catholic middle school games might require some preventive officiating, sometimes something as basic as where players stand on marked lane spaces, and what "one and one" means.

A lot of Catholic middle school games require a "How To Tie Your Sneakers So They Stay Tied" clinic, but I let my partner handle those.

[JRutledge]

I say similar things at the high school level that I would at the middle school (not sure why Catholic or any private school matters). When they do something, they get penalized. I try my best to not nitpick things that are minor. Call the obvious for the most part.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... not sure why Catholic ... matters.

We don't see too many second, and third, graders playing in our public middle school leagues.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Call the obvious for the most part.

Agree.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you are trying to give a rules clinic every situation you will take games hours.

"Don't cross over the line."

"Don't reach over the line."

Saying one over the other may add seconds to a game.

Not saying either may lead to a few extra violations that may add a few seconds to the game as well.

Remember we're talking Catholic middle school games here.