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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 11:44am
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Block charge and aftermath

Hey guys,
Wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the play at 1:26:58.

https://youtu.be/xPhx0xH9daY
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 11:59am
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I'll play:

Charge, not block.

Contact before shot, so even if a block, basket shouldn't count.

Now the refs can opine.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 12:06pm
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Hey guys,
Wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the play at 1:26:58.

https://youtu.be/xPhx0xH9daY

W1 had a LGP against B1. The ball was still in B2's hands when B1 charged into W1. Charging foul (TCF) by B1, the ball is dead immediately, no points for Team B, and Team W receives the ball for a DST on the End Line.

I have no idea what the L was looking to come up with a blocking foul on this play.

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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 12:07pm
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I'll play:

Charge, not block.

Contact before shot, so even if a block, basket shouldn't count.

Now the refs can opine.


Lets assume that this was a blocking foul (which it was not), then CM applies and the B2's basket is good.

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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 01:33pm
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Condensed - Only the play



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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 04:44pm
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W1 had a LGP against B1. The ball was still in B2's hands when B1 charged into W1. Charging foul (TCF) by B1, the ball is dead immediately, no points for Team B, and Team W receives the ball for a DST on the End Line.

I have no idea what the L was looking to come up with a blocking foul on this play.

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Calling official said he had a good look and that the defender leaned into shooter's path.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 05:29pm
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Calling official said he had a good look and that the defender leaned into shooter's path.
Alternative facts?
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 05:55pm
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Who was watching the ten players while the three officials huddled?
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 07:03pm
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The official did not have a good look. Charge all the way, not even close. Disagree with counting the basket on the block call as well. Offensive player is just catching the pass when the crash occurs. Should have been wiped off. Why would the T come in with this information anyway, the pass goes to C primary and he didn't think the basket should count. Terrible officiating all around.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 07:31pm
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Team control, for reasons already cited.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 08:43pm
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Block charge and aftermath

Agree as above stated. Ball was gone and defender had LGP. Passer trucked him. Gotta ship that one.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 09:27pm
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Is there still be a belief by some officials that the defender has to "take the contact" in order to have a charge?
We must rid the earth of such thinking!
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Agreed!
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 09:33pm
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IT should have been a charge. However how they adjudicated was correct. The offensive player was in his shooting motion at the time of the foul so the basket counts, then adjudicate the penalty for the block.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 09:54pm
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IT should have been a charge. However how they adjudicated was correct. The offensive player was in his shooting motion at the time of the foul so the basket counts, then adjudicate the penalty for the block.
Pause at first contact: ball is still in air toward the shooter. (And yes, I realize they don't get to do that and it's a really tough call to make live.)
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