Block / Charge

[Jumpshooter40]

A1 is driving the ball to the basket. He has beaten his defender (B1) and has his shoulders by him. Secondary defender B2 moves to a legal guarding position in the path of A1. B2, fearing the significant contact, turn his body as to not accept the full force of the contact. Does this negate his legal guarding position and it should now be called a block?

[HokiePaul]

still a charge in NFHS at least (not sure about NCAA cause I see references to new rules on block/charge and I'm not sure what that entails)

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Jumpshooter40

A1 is driving the ball to the basket. He has beaten his defender (B1) and has his shoulders by him. Secondary defender B2 moves to a legal guarding position in the path of A1. B2, fearing the significant contact, turn his body as to not accept the full force of the contact. Does this negate his legal guarding position and it should now be called a block?

Please look up Rule 4 Section 23 Article 3-E which declares:

"The guard may turn or duck to absorb the shock of imminent contact"

[Scrapper1]

If the defender has both feet on the floor and is facing the dribbler at some point before the contact, he can turn, duck, brace, move backwards, jump straight up and still maintain a legal guarding position. Once that initial position is established, the defender can move in almost any manner -- as long as he's not moving TOWARD the opponent and the time of contact -- and still have a legal position.

So the short answer to your question is, no, it should not be called a block.

[Camron Rust]

By rule, still a charge. Unfortunately, I see a number of officials turn it into the block with the unsupported assertion that they must stand there and take it in the chest before they'll call it a charge.

[Rich1]

Its a charge all the way unless the defender moves to the side while turning/ducking as the dribber also moves to the side to avoid contact. But if he maintains his position then any contact is the responsibility of the offense.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Rich1

Its a charge all the way unless the defender moves to the side while turning/ducking as the dribber also moves to the side to avoid contact. But if he maintains his position then any contact is the responsibility of the offense.

This is broad language, but it is definitely possible for a defender to maintain LGP while "moving to the side."

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Rich1

Its a charge all the way unless the defender moves to the side while turning/ducking as the dribber also moves to the side to avoid contact.

Rules reference, please...

Originally Posted by justacoach

Rules reference, please...

I believe he is implying the defender lost LGP by no longer being in the path.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jumpshooter40

B2, fearing the significant contact, turn his body as to not accept the full force of the contact.

If B2 had LGP, then turns his body in such a way as to minimize contact, this means he is moving away from the dribbler. If this is the case, no way can it be a block, so long as the defender is inbounds.

[Rich1]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If B2 had LGP, then turns his body in such a way as to minimize contact, this means he is moving away from the dribbler. If this is the case, no way can it be a block, so long as the defender is inbounds.

Yes, I was implying that the shooter tries to avoid contact and that in the act of turning away the defender initiates. It would not be a charge if the defender simply turns away. But, I think its different if the shooter steps sideways, goes up for a lay up, and while in the air is contacted by the defender because the defender looked away and moved into the shooter.