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Sharpshooternes Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:44am

Block charge and aftermath
 
Hey guys,
Wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the play at 1:26:58.

https://youtu.be/xPhx0xH9daY

so cal lurker Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:59am

I'll play:

Charge, not block.

Contact before shot, so even if a block, basket shouldn't count.

Now the refs can opine.:)

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 999254)
Hey guys,
Wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the play at 1:26:58.

https://youtu.be/xPhx0xH9daY


W1 had a LGP against B1. The ball was still in B2's hands when B1 charged into W1. Charging foul (TCF) by B1, the ball is dead immediately, no points for Team B, and Team W receives the ball for a DST on the End Line.

I have no idea what the L was looking to come up with a blocking foul on this play.

MTD, Sr.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 999258)
I'll play:

Charge, not block.

Contact before shot, so even if a block, basket shouldn't count.

Now the refs can opine.:)



Lets assume that this was a blocking foul (which it was not), then CM applies and the B2's basket is good.

MTD, Sr.

JRutledge Sat Feb 04, 2017 01:33pm

Condensed - Only the play
 
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Peace

Sharpshooternes Sat Feb 04, 2017 04:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 999259)
W1 had a LGP against B1. The ball was still in B2's hands when B1 charged into W1. Charging foul (TCF) by B1, the ball is dead immediately, no points for Team B, and Team W receives the ball for a DST on the End Line.

I have no idea what the L was looking to come up with a blocking foul on this play.

MTD, Sr.

Calling official said he had a good look and that the defender leaned into shooter's path.

LRZ Sat Feb 04, 2017 05:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 999293)
Calling official said he had a good look and that the defender leaned into shooter's path.

Alternative facts?

A Pennsylvania Coach Sat Feb 04, 2017 05:55pm

Who was watching the ten players while the three officials huddled?

johnny d Sat Feb 04, 2017 07:03pm

The official did not have a good look. Charge all the way, not even close. Disagree with counting the basket on the block call as well. Offensive player is just catching the pass when the crash occurs. Should have been wiped off. Why would the T come in with this information anyway, the pass goes to C primary and he didn't think the basket should count. Terrible officiating all around.

bainsey Sat Feb 04, 2017 07:31pm

Team control, for reasons already cited.

BlueDevilRef Sat Feb 04, 2017 08:43pm

Block charge and aftermath
 
Agree as above stated. Ball was gone and defender had LGP. Passer trucked him. Gotta ship that one.

Hawkeyes Sat Feb 04, 2017 09:27pm

Is there still be a belief by some officials that the defender has to "take the contact" in order to have a charge?
We must rid the earth of such thinking!

Mr.C Sat Feb 04, 2017 09:33pm

Agreed!

deecee Sat Feb 04, 2017 09:33pm

IT should have been a charge. However how they adjudicated was correct. The offensive player was in his shooting motion at the time of the foul so the basket counts, then adjudicate the penalty for the block.

so cal lurker Sat Feb 04, 2017 09:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 999310)
IT should have been a charge. However how they adjudicated was correct. The offensive player was in his shooting motion at the time of the foul so the basket counts, then adjudicate the penalty for the block.

Pause at first contact: ball is still in air toward the shooter. (And yes, I realize they don't get to do that and it's a really tough call to make live.)


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