Block charge and aftermath

[Sharpshooternes]

Hey guys,
Wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the play at 1:26:58.

https://youtu.be/xPhx0xH9daY

[so cal lurker]

I'll play:

Charge, not block.

Contact before shot, so even if a block, basket shouldn't count.

Now the refs can opine.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

I'll play:

Charge, not block.

Contact before shot, so even if a block, basket shouldn't count.

Now the refs can opine.

Lets assume that this was a blocking foul (which it was not), then CM applies and the B2's basket is good.

MTD, Sr.

[JRutledge]

Peace

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Hey guys,
Wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the play at 1:26:58.

https://youtu.be/xPhx0xH9daY

W1 had a LGP against B1. The ball was still in B2's hands when B1 charged into W1. Charging foul (TCF) by B1, the ball is dead immediately, no points for Team B, and Team W receives the ball for a DST on the End Line.

I have no idea what the L was looking to come up with a blocking foul on this play.

MTD, Sr.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

W1 had a LGP against B1. The ball was still in B2's hands when B1 charged into W1. Charging foul (TCF) by B1, the ball is dead immediately, no points for Team B, and Team W receives the ball for a DST on the End Line.

I have no idea what the L was looking to come up with a blocking foul on this play.

MTD, Sr.

Calling official said he had a good look and that the defender leaned into shooter's path.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Calling official said he had a good look and that the defender leaned into shooter's path.

Alternative facts?

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Who was watching the ten players while the three officials huddled?

[johnny d]

The official did not have a good look. Charge all the way, not even close. Disagree with counting the basket on the block call as well. Offensive player is just catching the pass when the crash occurs. Should have been wiped off. Why would the T come in with this information anyway, the pass goes to C primary and he didn't think the basket should count. Terrible officiating all around.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Alternative facts?

I tend to error on side of calling charge. Hard to get kids to take one. Having said that, offense is airborne and looks to me that defender is leaning left into his path. Falls toward block. I'm not able to say this is an obvious charge from our angle.

I do agree based on video that the basket should not count if block is call. In real time I'd understand if it was missed. Happens quick.

[BlueDevilRef]

Agree as above stated. Ball was gone and defender had LGP. Passer trucked him. Gotta ship that one.

[Hawkeyes]

Is there still be a belief by some officials that the defender has to "take the contact" in order to have a charge?
We must rid the earth of such thinking!

[Mr.C]

Agreed!

[deecee]

IT should have been a charge. However how they adjudicated was correct. The offensive player was in his shooting motion at the time of the foul so the basket counts, then adjudicate the penalty for the block.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by deecee

IT should have been a charge. However how they adjudicated was correct. The offensive player was in his shooting motion at the time of the foul so the basket counts, then adjudicate the penalty for the block.

Pause at first contact: ball is still in air toward the shooter. (And yes, I realize they don't get to do that and it's a really tough call to make live.)