Block or Charge or No Call (Video)

[Gutierrez7]

SECTION 7 BLOCKING, CHARGING

ART. 2 . . . Charging is illegal personal contact caused by pushing or moving into an opponent’s torso.

b. If a guard has obtained a legal guarding position, the player with the ball must get his/her head and shoulders past the torso of the defensive player. If contact occurs on the torso of the defensive player, the dribbler is responsible for the contact.

Contact appeared not to happen in the torso; therefore Blocking foul.

[Bob Bball]

Angle smangle! Who cares, The contact created by the defender was shoulder to shoulder! You can move laterally or back facing the ball handler. If you do that and contacted in the Torso of the defender it could result in a call against the offence.

When you turn and run and contact the offence you have changed direction and in doing so have not established a new legal guarding position. This a block and should not be passed on! The defender almost fouls down, the offence is re-routed momentarily by the contact.

I have viewed this play, or very similar, hundreds of times in both Men's and Women's College basketball as an observer and supervisor of officials. Each time I see a block not called I enter INC- Incorrect no call!

The game is basketball and blocking is illegal!

You can present discussions of angle, or argue what legal lateral movement is or is not. You can not look at that play and not see defence give up LGP and never establish it again, causing a lot of contact shoulder to shoulder. A blocking foul at every level of the game.

Yes, You can choose to pass - but that is -an INC

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Bob Bball

Angle smangle! Who cares, The contact created by the defender was shoulder to shoulder! You can move laterally or back facing the ball handler. If you do that and contacted in the Torso of the defender it could result in a call against the offence.

When you turn and run and contact the offence you have changed direction and in doing so have not established a new legal guarding position. This a block and should not be passed on! The defender almost fouls down, the offence is re-routed momentarily by the contact.

Incorrect...the defender may be turned in any direction while moving after gaining LGP. As long as the defender is not moving towards the opponent at contact and stay in the opponents path, the direction the defender faces is irrelevant.

It is still a block, however, but not for the reasons you state. It is a block because she didn't stay in the path and that meant she needed a new LGP. It has nothing to do with the turn or the direction she was facing.

Originally Posted by Bob Bball

I have viewed this play, or very similar, hundreds of times in both Men's and Women's College basketball as an observer and supervisor of officials. Each time I see a block not called I enter INC- Incorrect no call!

The game is basketball and blocking is illegal!

You can present discussions of angle, or argue what legal lateral movement is or is not. You can not look at that play and not see defence give up LGP and never establish it again, causing a lot of contact shoulder to shoulder. A blocking foul at every level of the game.

Yes, You can choose to pass - but that is -an INC

I would expect a college observer and supervisor to know better.

[Bob Bball]

She can turn(and when she does she gives up LGP)

She can then move laterally!

What she can not do is cause contact shoulder to shoulder from what is now not a LGP as she moves laterally!

Officiating 101. you will agree. We sometimes get caught up in wording when reading what other say.

It is a foul by defence!

You, obviously chose different words and phrasing to describe the some play!

But, good for you! Like most who have posted who have viewed the play it is a foul.

Describe it as you wish, it is foul!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Bob Bball

She can turn(and when she does she gives up LGP)

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Officiating 101. you will agree. We sometimes get caught up in wording when reading what other say.

Again, that is incorrect...Officiating 101. This isn't a matter of words. It is just fundamentally wrong and fully inconsistent with the rules defining LGP.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Again, that is incorrect...Officiating 101. This isn't a matter of words. It is just fundamentally wrong and fully inconsistent with the rules defining LGP.

Exactly, and it will lead to incorrect calls on other plays.

Getting the right call for the wrong reasons is just getting lucky.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Adam

Exactly, and it will lead to incorrect calls on other plays.

Getting the right call for the wrong reasons is just getting lucky.

it's still right.