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[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Dcran

Not sure if I sent my last question. Sorry if this is a repeat.

A1 picks up his dribble to pass to A2. A2 doesn't see the pass as they turn away. A1 runs and grabs the errant pass. What do you have if anything?

If you are a fan and want to know answer I have no issue telling you. If you are a referee I'd tell you to read the case and rule book. The answer is there as Bob said. No substitute for reading

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

No substitute for reading

What's wrong with doing research and "reading" something on the internet? After all, this is the twenty-first century. And this is coming from an old geezer. Should I put away my modern electronic calculator and go back to using my old trusty slide ruler?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Should I put away my modern electronic calculator and go back to using my old trusty slide ruler?

I use an abacus.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BigCat

If you are a fan and want to know answer I have no issue telling you. If you are a referee I'd tell you to read the case and rule book. The answer is there as Bob said. No substitute for reading

Maybe he could not find the play? I have yet to see anyone quote the actual play in the rulebook or case book. Some officials have not learned how to read both and look up plays. That is after all what this forum is designed for I would think.

Peace

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There is no case play needed.

All you have to know is the rule defining a dribble.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Maybe he could not find the play? I have yet to see anyone quote the actual play in the rulebook or case book. Some officials have not learned how to read both and look up plays. That is after all what this forum is designed for I would think.

Peace

You're right. Sorry Dcran. I thought answer was obvious if you read rule book at all. Don't want forum to be substitute for reading rules. I shouldn't have assumed you looking for easy answer rather than studying rules.

It's in the dribble rule. 4-15. If you toss the ball to the floor and go pick it up after it hits the floor without someone else touching it..it is a dribble. In your play the player already dribbled. He's dribbled again. Illegal dribble.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Don't want forum to be substitute for reading rules.

What's wrong with reading about rules on the Forum? What makes the Forum so different than a book made out of dead trees, or an electronic book? Someday (maybe it's already happening) we may be able to hear answers from the Forum, for those that may not be able to read, or that may be blind. We already can see videos of the plays we talk about when many Forum members have the ability to post such videos.

I received an Amazon Echo Dot for Christmas and it can do amazing things. In the near future I may be able to say, "Alexa. Here's a basketball play. A1 picks up his dribble to pass to A2. A2 doesn't see the pass as they turn away. A1 runs and grabs the errant pass. What NFHS rules, or case plays, apply here, and can you please download a video showing me an example of such a situation?"

Gutenberg died over 500 years ago. He had a nice run, but it's time to move on.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What's wrong with reading about rules on the Forum? What makes the Forum so different than a book made out of dead trees, or an electronic book? Someday (maybe it's already happening) we may be able to hear answers from the Forum, for those that may not be able to read, or that may be blind. We already can see videos of the plays we talk about when many Forum members have the ability to post such videos.

I received an Amazon Echo Dot for Christmas and it can do amazing things. In the near future I may be able to say, "Alexa. Here's a basketball play. A1 picks up his dribble to pass to A2. A2 doesn't see the pass as they turn away. A1 runs and grabs the errant pass. What NFHS rules, or case plays, apply here, and can you please download a video showing me an example of such a situation?"

Gutenberg died over 500 years ago. He had a nice run, but it's time to move on.

Ask Alexa what she thinks about wearing a belt to referee... or posting from old rule books... Reading about rules on the forum is fine. I told Dcran i was sorry. I do believe reading the rules and case book over and over is necessary. You read all the rules and plays and see how they fit together like a puzzle. Supplementing reading rules and case book with forum is great.

It has nothing to do with dead trees, etc.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What's wrong with reading about rules on the Forum? What makes the Forum so different than a book made out of dead trees, or an electronic book? [/I]

Getting the answer here will give you the answer to a particular play.

Looking in the book will (or is more likely to) give you the concepts to understand a wider range of similar plays AND to find out something not even related to the current play under discussion.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I do believe reading the rules and case book over and over is necessary.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Looking in the book will give you the concepts to understand a wider range of similar plays AND to find out something not even related to the current play under discussion.

Agree and agree. I have my nose in the rulebook, and the casebook, all the time, but I also found the Forum to be a valuable resource, a resource that wasn't available thirty-plus years ago. You will all note that it is I who often posts the entire rule, or case play, verbatim, when a Forum member answers a question, usually with the title, "Let's Go To The Videotape". The answer alone is not as good if it's not accompanied by a rulebook, or casebook, citation, as well as the rule, or case play, spelled out.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree and agree. I have my nose in the rulebook, and the casebook, all the time, but I also found the Forum to be a valuable resource, a resource that wasn't available thirty-plus years ago. You will all note that it is I who often posts the entire rule, or case play, verbatim, when a Forum member answers a question, usually with the title, "Let's Go To The Videotape". The answer alone is not as good if it's not accompanied by a rulebook, or casebook, citation, as well as the rule, or case play, spelled out.

What did Alexa say about belts on referees?😃