Nobody Pays Attention To Officials

[BryanV21]

The lead is at the end where the point is scored, on the opposite side of the camera. Took me a second to find.

BTW, I too say something like "white ball" while pointing the direction they're going.

I just found it funny that the players and coaches didn't pay attention to the fact the lead was on the other end of the court and thought "umm... is something wrong?"

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

The lead is at the end where the point is scored, on the opposite side of the camera. Took me a second to find.

BTW, I too say something like "white ball" while pointing the direction they're going.

I just found it funny that the players and coaches didn't pay attention to the fact the lead was on the other end of the court and thought "umm... is something wrong?"

Of all the reasons players and coaches should have noticed this was a problem, the location of the referees seems the smallest . . .

[Adam]

Bush league play, IMO.

But it should never work at this level.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

Bush league play, IMO.

But it should never work at this level.

I call out the color and point one time. After that it's on the players (and coaches) to pay attention to what's going on.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I call out the color and point one time. After that it's on the players (and coaches) to pay attention to what's going on.

Exactly.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Of all the reasons players and coaches should have noticed this was a problem, the location of the referees seems the smallest . . .

It's a little tongue-in-cheek, as I don't want to be noticed.

[bob jenkins]

Doing anything more than having the administering offical point in the right direction and say "white" (or whatever color) is coaching the teams. Do not, imo, be the official who tells either team to go stand at the other end.

[Robert E. Harrison]

Duke still won by 3.

[Old Man Ref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Doing anything more than having the administering offical point in the right direction and say "white" (or whatever color) is coaching the teams. Do not, imo, be the official who tells either team to go stand at the other end.

I haven't refereed in a number of years but it seems to me that making sure everybody is going in the right direction is good preventive officiating. What if the UL player was confused and starts toward the wrong basket? You mentioned that we don't coach during the game. I agree, but how is that different from telling a coach he/she has 4 players on the floor or telling players in the lane to "move?" In this case, I may have said "Red" and pointed very emphatically maybe even twice

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Old Man Ref

I haven't refereed in a number of years but it seems to me that making sure everybody is going in the right direction is good preventive officiating. What if the UL player was confused and starts toward the wrong basket? You mentioned that we don't coach during the game. I agree, but how is that different from telling a coach he/she has 4 players on the floor or telling players in the lane to "move?" In this case, I may have said "Red" and pointed very emphatically maybe even twice

1. Telling a coach that the team only has four players on the floor will occur during a dead ball and isn't coaching the players. It is informing the coach.

2. Telling players to move out of the lane should not be done. That is coaching and not the role of the official.

3. Pointing direction and verbally stating the color is the correct mechanic.

I believe that this trickery is possible in the NCAAW's game because of the recent switch from halves to quarters. We now have two extra division line AP throw-ins and they occur without a change of baskets. Meanwhile the NCAAM's game only has one division line AP throw-in and the teams are switching baskets at this time.

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[Old Man Ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

1. Telling a coach that the team only has four players on the floor will occur during a dead ball and isn't coaching the players. It is informing the coach.

2. Telling players to move out of the lane should not be done. That is coaching and not the role of the official.

3. Pointing direction and verbally stating the color is the correct mechanic.

I believe that this trickery is possible in the NCAAW's game because of the recent switch from halves to quarters. We now have two extra division line AP throw-ins and they occur without a change of baskets. Meanwhile the NCAAM's game only has one division line AP throw-in and the teams are switching baskets at this time.

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I haven't called a game in 6 years but we were taught and practiced preventive officiating. Telling post players to get out of the lane, stopping a hand-check, telling the defender not to reach across the plane when guarding the thrower, knock off the rough play, tuck in your shirt, and likely many more that I am forgetting. Is that not practiced today in HS officiating?