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BryanV21 Tue Jan 03, 2017 09:55am

Nobody Pays Attention To Officials
 
Sorry for not being able to embed the video, as I have no idea how to do it. But I found this funny, not just because it's Duke that messed up, but because the officials are actually in the correct spots.

Nobody pays attention to us. :(

Louisville women trick Duke into defending wrong hoop (and it's so awesome)

APG Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:36am

I fail to see the lead in the correct spot for a second half throw in.

Raymond Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:41am

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 996156)
I fail to see the lead on the correct spot for a second half throw in.

The Lead was in the proper spot. The C, however, should have been in the backcourt with the pack of players.

APG Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:53am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 996157)
The Lead was in the proper spot. The C, however, should have been in the backcourt with the pack of players.

I dunno...if it's me as the new lead I post up where they should be going. I'd be seeing me adjusting if for whatever reason both teams didn't adjust. But then again if I'm the one administering the throw in...I'm telling both teams who has the throw in and what direction. Heck even as a non administering official I tell teams...."x ball's coming in...going x's way"

BryanV21 Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:27am

The lead is at the end where the point is scored, on the opposite side of the camera. Took me a second to find.

BTW, I too say something like "white ball" while pointing the direction they're going.

I just found it funny that the players and coaches didn't pay attention to the fact the lead was on the other end of the court and thought "umm... is something wrong?"

so cal lurker Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:44am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 996161)
The lead is at the end where the point is scored, on the opposite side of the camera. Took me a second to find.

BTW, I too say something like "white ball" while pointing the direction they're going.

I just found it funny that the players and coaches didn't pay attention to the fact the lead was on the other end of the court and thought "umm... is something wrong?"

Of all the reasons players and coaches should have noticed this was a problem, the location of the referees seems the smallest . . .

Adam Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:35pm

Bush league play, IMO.

But it should never work at this level.

BryanV21 Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 996164)
Of all the reasons players and coaches should have noticed this was a problem, the location of the referees seems the smallest . . .

It's a little tongue-in-cheek, as I don't want to be noticed.

bob jenkins Tue Jan 03, 2017 01:23pm

Doing anything more than having the administering offical point in the right direction and say "white" (or whatever color) is coaching the teams. Do not, imo, be the official who tells either team to go stand at the other end.

Robert E. Harrison Tue Jan 03, 2017 02:51pm

final 58-55
 
Duke still won by 3.

Old Man Ref Tue Jan 03, 2017 03:41pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 996172)
Doing anything more than having the administering offical point in the right direction and say "white" (or whatever color) is coaching the teams. Do not, imo, be the official who tells either team to go stand at the other end.

I haven't refereed in a number of years but it seems to me that making sure everybody is going in the right direction is good preventive officiating. What if the UL player was confused and starts toward the wrong basket? You mentioned that we don't coach during the game. I agree, but how is that different from telling a coach he/she has 4 players on the floor or telling players in the lane to "move?" In this case, I may have said "Red" and pointed very emphatically maybe even twice ;)

Nevadaref Tue Jan 03, 2017 03:56pm

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Originally Posted by Old Man Ref (Post 996190)
I haven't refereed in a number of years but it seems to me that making sure everybody is going in the right direction is good preventive officiating. What if the UL player was confused and starts toward the wrong basket? You mentioned that we don't coach during the game. I agree, but how is that different from telling a coach he/she has 4 players on the floor or telling players in the lane to "move?" In this case, I may have said "Red" and pointed very emphatically maybe even twice ;)

1. Telling a coach that the team only has four players on the floor will occur during a dead ball and isn't coaching the players. It is informing the coach.

2. Telling players to move out of the lane should not be done. That is coaching and not the role of the official.

3. Pointing direction and verbally stating the color is the correct mechanic.

I believe that this trickery is possible in the NCAAW's game because of the recent switch from halves to quarters. We now have two extra division line AP throw-ins and they occur without a change of baskets. Meanwhile the NCAAM's game only has one division line AP throw-in and the teams are switching baskets at this time.
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Raymond Tue Jan 03, 2017 04:12pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 996158)
I dunno...if it's me as the new lead I post up where they should be going. I'd be seeing me adjusting if for whatever reason both teams didn't adjust. But then again if I'm the one administering the throw in...I'm telling both teams who has the throw in and what direction. Heck even as a non administering official I tell teams...."x ball's coming in...going x's way"

You don't think the C should be with the pack of players? :confused: Since when doesn't the C monitor the pack?

And the Lead was posted up under Louisville's basket. I'm not sure what you are seeing in this clip. After Louisville's basket you can see the administering official moving towards Duke's end line as the New Lead, and original Lead coming up the court as the New Trail.

Raymond Tue Jan 03, 2017 04:13pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 996168)
Bush league play, IMO.

But it should never work at this level.

I call out the color and point one time. After that it's on the players (and coaches) to pay attention to what's going on.

BillyMac Tue Jan 03, 2017 04:13pm

Smile, You're On Candid Camera ...
 
Does anybody besides me detect an ever so slight smile on the administering official?


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