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Old Sun Dec 18, 2016, 10:28pm
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If you mean the "undercut" I agree that that could have been and probably should have been a foul.

But if that was not seen and I understand why it was not called with that cluster of players, then the player falling is no longer in LGP and that is why the foul was called.

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The undercut, the first foul, should have been called. Tough call when they say "foul on you because he knocked you down and then he tripped over you."

It happens. Refereeing is hard.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2016, 10:33pm
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The undercut, the first foul, should have been called. Tough call when they say "foul on you because he knocked you down and then he tripped over you."

It happens. Refereeing is hard.
It does happen a lot, and it's not the first time it's happened to Williams, I'm sure.

I can't imagine I'd even have my job if I reacted to others' mistakes like this.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2016, 10:42pm
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It does happen a lot, and it's not the first time it's happened to Williams, I'm sure.

I can't imagine I'd even have my job if I reacted to others' mistakes like this.
yes, we will make mistakes/not catch things. Everybody knows it. When we do...coach can be frustrated, angry etc...but he can't do that...

You can see on the last part of the clip that blues arm hit back of NC leg to cause fall. I can see how that would be missed.

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Old Sun Dec 18, 2016, 11:04pm
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The undercut, the first foul, should have been called. Tough call when they say "foul on you because he knocked you down and then he tripped over you."

It happens. Refereeing is hard.
First foul is missed because the Lead is looking up at the basket instead of the players on the floor.

As Lead, we must have discipline not to follow the ball to the basket. New Center might have seen it had he not been so high at Trail; he gets to the Center position late because of the distance he had to cover. Old Center/New Trail might have seen it had he not started bailing out for no reason.

Announcers, as usual, are clueless.
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While it could have been a foul on the UK player, this play was not inconsistent with how similar situations are often called. How often do we see, on rebounding plays, the outside player jumping straight up all the time and being called for a foul when the interior player moves/jumps back. This really isn't any different in that sense. It is pretty common that interior player, whether right or wrong, is given more leeway.

This play was, however different in one way. The UNC player was jumping to block the shot. He was no where near it...then the contact happened as he laneded from trying to block the shot. Even if the UK player didn't back up, the UNC player would have been facing away from the basket and out of position for the rebound. Is it possible they determined it had no possession consequence and passed but then were forced to call something on the subsequent trip?
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