NFHS Rules Changes 2016-17

[Rich]

No warning horn would be a step backwards, in my opinion.

[Matt S.]

If they treat it like the NCAA, it'll be a warning horn right away when the official notifies the table, and a T if there's no sub report d by the second horn.

NCAA-W made the change to 15 last year and it went fine. Just have to be deliberate in notifying the player, coach, partners, then table to 'work with' coaches in this instance.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

No warning horn would be a step backwards, in my opinion.

I don't see how it's needed, although the first year could see a few more Ts if they don't have one as coaches who aren't aware of the change are expecting a warning horn.

But in reality, my verbal direction to the timer to start the 15 second clock IS the warning.

I've only had to give one T for this in the past, and he didn't get any coaxing from me once I started the timer. 2nd horn went off, and my whistle followed.

[Adam]

And I'm going to assume the Team control/back court cluster fark is still broken.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

And I'm going to assume the Team control/back court cluster fark is still broken.

If you mean did they address anything with this issue, the answer appears to be no with rules changes. Maybe an editorial change was accomplished. That really is the only way this can be corrected.

Peace

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Adam

And I'm going to assume the Team control/back court cluster fark is still broken.

The single most annoying thing to me about rules these days deals with elbows. An elbow in movement is intentional foul...and on and on. Nowhere to be found in high school book. 2012 POE I think. I like to make calls that I can back up with rule book....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

The single most annoying thing to me about rules these days deals with elbows. An elbow in movement is intentional foul...and on and on. Nowhere to be found in high school book. 2012 POE I think. I like to make calls that I can back up with rule book....

Agree.

2012-13 POINTS OF EMPHASIS

2. Contact above the shoulders. With a continued emphasis on reducing concussions and decreasing excessive contact situations the committee determined that more guidance is needed for penalizing contact above the shoulders.

a. A player shall not swing his/her arm(s) or elbow(s) even without contacting an opponent. Excessive swinging of the elbows occurs when arms and elbows are swung about while using the shoulders as pivots, and the speed of the extended arms and elbows is in excess of the rest of the body as it rotates on the hips or on the pivot foot. Currently it is a violation in Rule 9 Section 13 Article.

b. Examples of illegal contact above the shoulders and resulting penalties.
1. Contact with a stationary elbow may be incidental or a common foul.
2. An elbow in movement but not excessive should be an intentional foul.
3. A moving elbow that is excessive can be either an intentional foul or flagrant personal foul.