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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 07:45am
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If it were me and I noticed, as part of my Rule 2 duties I'd insist the problem be corrected before the game started.
And, after your well intentioned, rational, and correct, insistence, what if the Georgia High School Association executive director, or president, or basketball tournament coordinator, tapped you on the shoulder, and told you to officiate the game as is? What's your next move?

What's it gonna be, boy?

Fish, or cut bait?
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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 07:57am
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And, after your well intentioned, rational, and correct, insistence, what if the Georgia High School Association executive director, or president, or basketball tournament coordinator, tapped you on the shoulder, and told you to officiate the game as is? What's your next move?



What's it gonna be, boy?



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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 08:09am
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Poetic Justice Mentioned On The Forum ??? Pretty High Brow Stuff ...

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When the boss says work, I'll work. But there's an element of poetic justice in knowing that they know that I know.
Good answer. Now where's that darn like button? Wait? I'm being told ... The Forum? Not Facebook? Then I'll just make my own like button.
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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 08:18am
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Good answer. Now where's that darn like button? Wait? I'm being told ... The Forum? Not Facebook? Then I'll just make my own like button.
There is a Like button on the smart phone app.

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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 08:22am
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There is a Like button on the smart phone app.
What's a smart phone? How can anything be smarter than my good old flip phone? I can call anybody in the world with my flip phone. It even takes low definition photos. And, I'm told that my flip phone can text, if somebody can just show me how this texting thing works. How can a phone be any better than that?
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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 08:31am
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And, after your well intentioned, rational, and correct, insistence, what if the Georgia High School Association executive director, or president, or basketball tournament coordinator, tapped you on the shoulder, and told you to officiate the game as is? What's your next move?

What's it gonna be, boy?

Fish, or cut bait?
I would not officiate the contest. They can find someone else if they wish to play with incorrect placement of the baskets. Those are fundamental to the game.
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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 08:43am
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I would not officiate the contest. They can find someone else if they wish to play with incorrect placement of the baskets. Those are fundamental to the game.
Strong answer. Nice job sticking up to your high principles.

But what if it was only a one inch error on the court? Or, it was discovered that both baskets were a half an inch too high? And that it would take twenty four hours to make the adjustment? And that there were 12,000 fans in the Macon Centreplex waiting for the game to begin? And then the Georgia High School Association executive director, or president, or basketball tournament coordinator, tapped you on the shoulder, and told you to officiate the game as is?

A one foot difference? A one hour wait? I believe that I would be as insistent as Nevadaref under those parameters, but what about lesser problems that couldn't be fixed in a short time frame? Both rims one quarter of an inch too short? Can't be fixed for a week? We're probably playing basketball. Rims eleven feet high? Forty-five minute delay? We'll wait. Rims eleven feet high? Twenty-four hour delay? No way we're playing tonight.
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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 08:51am
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Strong answer. Nice job sticking up to your high principles. But what if it was only a one inch error on the court? Or, it was discovered that both baskets were a half an inch too high? And that it would take twenty four hours to make the adjustment? And that there were 12,000 fans in the Macon Centreplex waiting for the game to begin? And then the Georgia High School Association executive director, or president, or basketball tournament coordinator, tapped you on the shoulder, and told you to officiate the game as is?
The smaller the error the less likely that anyone is to notice.
However, to take your hypothetical to the extreme, if the baskets are an inch off and for whatever reason they cannot be fixed until the next day, I would think that consulting with the teams would be the right thing to do. Either one of them should have the right to protest playing under improper conditions. I would honor such.

Of course, Billy, you realize that what you are asking is like saying that the only ball which can be found for the boys State Championship game is a girls basketball. It's not going to happen. Somehow, someway, the issue will get fixed.

I'm shocked that the directors, officials, and teams all knew that the baskets were a full foot out of place and that it wouldn't take that long too fix it, yet did nothing about it for the kids. These were games that they will remember for the rest of their lives. You know what they will remember most now? Yep, that the adminstrators didn't care enough to get the damn baskets properly placed. What a shame.
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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 09:06am
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The smaller the error the less likely that anyone is to notice ... I would think that consulting with the teams would be the right thing to do. Either one of them should have the right to protest playing under improper conditions ... only ball which can be found for the boys State Championship game is a girls basketball. It's not going to happen. Somehow, someway, the issue will get fixed ... I'm shocked that the directors, officials, and teams all knew that the baskets were a full foot out of place and that it wouldn't take that long too fix it, yet did nothing about it ...
Agree. And I'm as shocked as you.

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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 09:34am
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What struck me as particularly shocking was the cavalier attitude of the executive director. Not a word of explanation why the hour delay was unavoidable. And to essentially ignore the shooting percentages?

What is the point of the referee's responsibility, under 2-4-1, to "inspect and approve all equipment, including court"?

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Old Sun Mar 06, 2016, 09:54am
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Ha,
we waited for 30 minutes yesterday for a goal to be hand cranked for a middle school basketball game after the motor broke. The concession lady treated us nice!
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