Duke/Virginia PC/B call

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

I said live it looked to be a charge. On replay, I have a block. The defender didn't establish LGP prior to the beginning of the shooter's motion. ICC - I agree.

According to NCAAW mechanics, this play was then the C's all the way. In the clip, the L has his eyes on the play all the way to the end. If the C is following the ball into the paint, he had to pick up the defender late. I would assume that this play would be discussed in the postgame.

That's not the criterion. The correct criterion is LGP prior to the shooter leaving the floor. (and that's the criterion in NCAAM as well, I think)

No, this is L's call. The drive was down the lane.

And, I know it's going to be obvious, but what is "ICC?"

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That's not the criterion. The correct criterion is LGP prior to the shooter leaving the floor. (and that's the criterion in NCAAM as well, I think)

No, this is L's call. The drive was down the lane.

And, I know it's going to be obvious, but what is "ICC?"

ICC = Incorrect call.

I thought that the call should have been the lead's.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That's not the criterion. The correct criterion is LGP prior to the shooter leaving the floor. (and that's the criterion in NCAAM as well, I think)

No, this is L's call. The drive was down the lane.

And, I know it's going to be obvious, but what is "ICC?"

You beat me to this. I disagreed with every point that L^3 just listed.

Upon repeated viewings, I have the defender in position before the offensive player goes airborne (both feet leave the floor), so the correct call is a charging foul.
Based upon the mechanics for NCAAW this would be the Lead's primary call. Unfortunately, the Lead made the wrong decision. I feel that this is a failure of the system. The is no way that the Lead can look through the body of the defender to see when the offensive play goes airborne. On the other hand, the C has a wonderful open-look at this action. Not surprisingly, the C signaled a charge. The NCAAW need to rethink the mechanic for this type of action.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You beat me to this. I disagreed with every point that L^3 just listed.

Upon repeated viewings, I have the defender in position before the offensive player goes airborne (both feet leave the floor), so the correct call is a charging foul.
Based upon the mechanics for NCAAW this would be the Lead's primary call. Unfortunately, the Lead made the wrong decision. I feel that this is a failure of the system. The is no way that the Lead can look through the body of the defender to see when the offensive play goes airborne. On the other hand, the C has a wonderful open-look at this action. Not surprisingly, the C signaled a charge. The NCAAW need to rethink the mechanic for this type of action.

This is the leads primary call in NCAAM too. Contact was with a secondary defender on a play going to the basket, and in the lane. The only difference between men and women is we would have reported both fouls, and gone to the arrow to determine whose ball.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by johnny d

This is the leads primary call in NCAAM too. Contact was with a secondary defender on a play going to the basket, and in the lane. The only difference between men and women is we would have reported both fouls, and gone to the arrow to determine whose ball.

Small nit, you go to POI, which may be the arrow. (In this case it would be)

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Small nit, you go to POI, which may be the arrow. (In this case it would be)

Yes, I know what the rule is. I was speaking specifically about the play in the video. Perhaps I didn't make that clear.

[JRutledge]

This is clearly a block to me. Moving over while the shooter was airborne. Easy call if you ask me.

Peace

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is clearly a block to me. Moving over while the shooter was airborne. Easy call if you ask me.

Peace

Sincere question.
I'm not convinced the defense was but if the defense was already in the path when the offensive player went air born then the extra sideways movement is irrelevant correct?