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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:37am
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What does everyone think about this play?



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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:22am
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I think it was very generous.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:00am
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The foul was definitely after he gathered!


We had a few discussions on this forum centering around the act of shooting and gathering the ball. I consistently argued that the gather had nothing to do with starting the act of shooting, but that sentiment wasn't shared by several posters.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:37am
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In my high school game, he's in the act of shooting.

NFHS 4-11-2: If an opponent fouls after a player has started a try for goal, he/she
is permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or
stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any
activity while holding the ball. These privileges are granted only when the usual
throwing motion has started before the foul occurs and before the ball is in flight.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:42am
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In my high school game, he's in the act of shooting.

NFHS 4-11-2: If an opponent fouls after a player has started a try for goal, he/she
is permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or
stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any
activity while holding the ball. These privileges are granted only when the usual
throwing motion has started before the foul occurs and before the ball is in flight.
At what point do you think that the player has started a try for goal?
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:27am
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At what point do you think that the player has started a try for goal?
At around the eleven second mark, the defender first puts his hand on the ball (legal), and then his opponent's hand (legal), and then his hand moves up to the wrist (illegal contact) of the ball handler, who had already started his the usual throwing motion when the illegal contact (foul) occurred. Hey, the commentators called it a "great call", and they're always correct. They're what you call experts. Right?
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:39am
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...We had a few discussions on this forum centering around the act of shooting and gathering the ball. I consistently argued that the gather had nothing to do with starting the act of shooting, but that sentiment wasn't shared by several posters.
And this one should continue to fuel that debate. He definitely had gathered when the foul occurred, but...was he on his way up at that point? Had he started his "habitual shooting motion"? I believe he did...I'd score it and shoot one.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:28am
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once you've gathered the ball in layup steps, it's in the act. criminal to take points off the board for the fouled time with a foul call when you can help it.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:36am
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HS shooting. NCAAM not shooting.
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