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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:13am
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Would you say that breaking the plane of the OOB line is an immediate TF, and therefore any act following that (excluding flagrant fouls) is ignored? Leading to only one TF being called?
Read the case play in post #2.
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Read the case play in post #2.
That says how to administer, not why. And I was curious about the "why".

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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:27am
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That says how to administer, not why. And I was curious about the "why".

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The "why" is because the case play tells us to do it that way.

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Would you say that breaking the plane of the OOB line is an immediate TF, and therefore any act following that (excluding flagrant fouls) is ignored? Leading to only one TF being called?
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...RULING: Even though Team B had already been issued a warning for team delay, when B1 breaks the plane and subsequently contacts the ball in the thrower's hand, it is considered all the same act and the end result is penalized....
Breaking the plane after a delay warning is a team technical. Contacting the ball is a technical foul charged to the player. There is only one TF.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:41am
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I asked about the reasoning based on rules, and if those rules led to the case play ruling. It was not based on my own feelings about the play.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:11am
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I asked about the reasoning based on rules, and if those rules led to the case play ruling. It was not based on my own feelings about the play.
without a similar case, you would never have a T for hitting the ball. the plane is always broken first.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:14am
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I asked about the reasoning based on rules, and if those rules led to the case play ruling. It was not based on my own feelings about the play.
The reasoning is that the NFHS doesn't want multiple fouls charged for one action, but also doesn't want someone to get away with a major infraction simply because a lesser one occurred first.

What you are contemplating by only calling the first would lead to situations such as only whistling an excessive elbow swinging violation when the offender swipes twice and connects with the opponent's face on the second one. Officials cannot let the IPF or FPF go unpenalized in such cases.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:24am
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Guys...

There is a rule saying that if a foul is called, all action following that is ignored unless it is flagrant. Which I brought up. My question from there was simple... is that rule the reason for the case book ruling?

Smitty responded, thinking I missed the post about the Case Book play, which tells us how to administer the call. No problem.

BNR then responded that "no", and followed that up with the reason.

There was no other thought or question.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:53am
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There is a rule saying that if a foul is called, all action following that is ignored unless it is flagrant.
I think it says "if the ball is dead, all contact is ignored unless it is intentional, flagrant or on or by an airborne shooter."

Completely different from what you wrote, and not applicable to the OP.
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