Fouled But Gets 5th Foul On A T?

[Adam]

Just saw the video. I don't think I make that call at any point in any game I work; unless I have warned him previously or I'm asking him for the ball as he chucks it down the court. It's not going to delay anything.

But if SEC powers, and John Adams, want this called, so be it.

[bballref3966]

Nowhere in the NFHS/NCAA rules does it say that slamming the ball is an automatic T.

I'm leaving this one alone.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by Adam

Just saw the video. I don't think I make that call at any point in any game I work; unless I have warned him previously or I'm asking him for the ball as he chucks it down the court. It's not going to delay anything.

But if SEC powers, and John Adams, want this called, so be it.

I believe you mean JD Collins. Adams is no longer the head honcho.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

Just saw the video. I don't think I make that call at any point in any game I work; unless I have warned him previously or I'm asking him for the ball as he chucks it down the court. It's not going to delay anything.

But if SEC powers, and John Adams, want this called, so be it.

I haven't seen a good replay angle yet, but it appears the ball gets slammed in the direction of an opponent. I was expecting it to be one where he slams it to himself.

It's an unusual and unexpected act by the player. I'm not blaming an official for calling a Tech here.

[Ed Maeder]

Did anyone hear what the player was saying when he slammed the ball? He definitely was yelling something. I have no problem with the tech.

[Valley Man]

The post game report was probably because Jay Bilas wouldn't shut up. He kept spewing what was going to happen and he wasn't even close. He is the one insisting that the opposing coach gets to choose. When R came and told him what the scenario was, you know he never said "I WAS WRONG".

[twocentsworth]

Poor technical foul...players actions do not meet ANY of the Class A Technical Foul definitions.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Poor technical foul...players actions do not meet ANY of the Class A Technical Foul definitions.

Easy to say from the replay booth. It really isn't hard for a player in that situation NOT to get a T. Just toss the damn ball to an official. The calling official was behind him. He could have easily interpreted the ball slam as an expression by the player "about time foul called" or a taunt "we win" etc. Many things that fit an A. As a player you learn in the 4th grade slamming the ball is bad. Ideally, a T isn't called here but I don't put it on the official.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Easy to say from the replay booth. It really isn't hard for a player in that situation NOT to get a T. Just toss the damn ball to an official. The calling official was behind him. He could have easily interpreted the ball slam as an expression by the player "about time foul called" or a taunt "we win" etc. Many things that fit an A. As a player you learn in the 4th grade slamming the ball is bad. Ideally, a T isn't called here but I don't put it on the official.

I don't think it was a bad call, as it seems to be the expected call. I just don't see how it breaks any rules.

1. It wasn't taunting. I've never seen a player taunt without actually engaging an opponent or the opponent's bench directly.
2. I didn't sense it was overly exuberative. A teammate caught it, from what I understand.
3. It's not inciting the crowd.
4. He wasn't objecting to a call.
5. It didn't actually delay the game, which is the rule most people are quoting.

It's expected, I get that, I just can't think of a rule it violates.

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

The post game report was probably because Jay Bilas wouldn't shut up. He kept spewing what was going to happen and he wasn't even close. He is the one insisting that the opposing coach gets to choose. When R came and told him what the scenario was, you know he never said "I WAS WRONG".

That's not true, he clearly said before the explanation that he wasn't sure and, after the explanation, said that he didn't know that and hadn't seen it before and, again quite clearly, distinguished this situation from if a fouled player is injured.