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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:22am
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Why in the world would anyone think a crew working two playoff games in the same night is a good thing? Let alone both genders in the same night?

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Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.

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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:35am
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Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.
You guys are getting hosed.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:44am
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Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.
I usually get paid around $60-70 dollars for a single varsity 3 person game and only one game. I get paid more for a college game than you would get paid for two high school games.

I am so glad that our state does not like that model for varsity games. The only way would would work a state playoff game double header is if someone is hurt and we happened to be there to cover the game.

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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:53pm
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We get about $53 for a 3-person here in Oregon. $63 for a 2-person.
Do 2 games get 2x pay.

Sub-rounds in playoffs which are all 2-person currently get a $5 bump.
Championship rounds which are all 2-person get a $10 bump.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:59pm
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We get about $53 for a 3-person here in Oregon. $63 for a 2-person.
Do 2 games get 2x pay.

Sub-rounds in playoffs which are all 2-person currently get a $5 bump.
Championship rounds which are all 2-person get a $10 bump.
Is Oregon taking well to 3-person?
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:51pm
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Is Oregon taking well to 3-person?
It has varied.

I think we tried to bring too many people into 3-person all at once....the R's have been 3-person experience but the other two often are new at it. Some have picked it up fairly well while others havn't. As a result, there have been a couple crews I've been on that really struggled

One official can really mess things up by forcing the others to try to figure out where they need to go to make sure the play gets covered.

I've also been on several where it has been great to have the 3rd....where there are plays that you know were covered better because of that extra angle you could defer to on some plays.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:06pm
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It has varied.

I think we tried to bring too many people into 3-person all at once....the R's have been 3-person experience but the other two often are new at it. Some have picked it up fairly well while others havn't. As a result, there have been a couple crews I've been on that really struggled

One official can really mess things up by forcing the others to try to figure out where they need to go to make sure the play gets covered.

I've also been on several where it has been great to have the 3rd....where there are plays that you know were covered better because of that extra angle you could defer to on some plays.
My experience is that you can do well with 2 people who have experience and a newer person, but that 1 strong official can't really compensate for 2.

I love it, though. 44th varsity game tonight and I've done all 44 3-person this year.
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Old Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:15am
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My experience is that you can do well with 2 people who have experience and a newer person, but that 1 strong official can't really compensate for 2.

I love it, though. 44th varsity game tonight and I've done all 44 3-person this year.
I agree. One new official to 3-person can be carried comfortably. Two, for me, is nearly impossible.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:03pm
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It has varied.

I think we tried to bring too many people into 3-person all at once....the R's have been 3-person experience but the other two often are new at it. Some have picked it up fairly well while others havn't. As a result, there have been a couple crews I've been on that really struggled

One official can really mess things up by forcing the others to try to figure out where they need to go to make sure the play gets covered.

I've also been on several where it has been great to have the 3rd....where there are plays that you know were covered better because of that extra angle you could defer to on some plays.
Unfortunately the whole State has not adopted it. I'll say that at least in my area, the player, coaches, and athletic directors love it.
The officials that have struggled are the same ones that haven't adapted to new rules over the years. A little stubborn in the old ways of everything. The key with the new people to 3-person was just get them to relax and referee and worry about the positioning later. I think we'll see a lot of people that have never gone to camps, do so this year.
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Old Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:11am
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I've posted this before............

Just for comparison, in North Dakota, our fees are:

Class A Basketball (18 min halves): Varsity $73.50 - Soph/JV $40.50
Class B Basketball (8 min quarters): Varsity $71.50 -Soph/JV $40.50
Freshman: $35
7th-8th Grade: $30

**Rates are the same whether it is 2 or 3 person crews. Nearly all varsity games are 3 person crews.

**Mileage: Our state pays the state rate of $.54 per mile for the driver. Any round trip over 100 miles includes $.05 per mile for the riders.

** Playoff Fees:
Class B Region $79.50
Class A Region $82
Class B State $94
Class A State $97.50
Meal Allowance:
Home officials: $8 (Region) $12 (State)
Away officials: $15 (Region) $28 (State)

Lodging also provided by the NDHSAA dependent upon game times and travel distance. Typically over 75 miles they put you in a hotel room rather than pay mileage back and forth each day.
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