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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:14pm
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Why in the world would anyone think a crew working two playoff games in the same night is a good thing? Let alone both genders in the same night?

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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:47pm
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I'm also willing to bet, that the girls play the first game, and after you've run the floor for four quarters, then you run for boys varsity.

Foul also. That's $42.50 per game. We get $45 for junior high games.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:21pm
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Why in the world would anyone think a crew working two playoff games in the same night is a good thing? Let alone both genders in the same night?

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This is SOP in South Carolina, public and private schools. Crews almost always work a girls/boys doubleheader during the regular season, and even during regular season tournaments it's almost always doubleheaders. In the postseason, the SCHSL assigns doubleheaders whenever possible based on the brackets. And I think that's true up until the state semifinals, where we go to one crew per game.

I wish I didn't have to work doubleheaders or girls basketball in general, but that's just not the way it goes in this state.

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I'm also willing to bet, that the girls play the first game, and after you've run the floor for four quarters, then you run for boys varsity.
Yes, the girls play first whenever it's a DH.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:28pm
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$85 for a playoff double header sounds insulting.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:50pm
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Bit rough there.

Ohio does sectional,districts,regional then state sites.

Only one game a night and your not allowed to do any other contest during the same day as a tournament aassignment.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 09:53pm
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To determine whether or not this is a fair rate, I would need to know what you get during the regular season.

I can tell you that my area is $78 for regular season (2-man) and about $95 (2-man) for playoffs. Those are single game fees. There is no reduction for DHs.

3-man playoffs is about $70.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:56pm
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To determine whether or not this is a fair rate, I would need to know what you get during the regular season.

I can tell you that my area is $78 for regular season (2-man) and about $95 (2-man) for playoffs. Those are single game fees. There is no reduction for DHs.

3-man playoffs is about $70.
Varsity fees in SC are $55 for a single regular season game and $78 for a DH. This is the game fee only, not the travel allowance which is included in the same check ($0.45 per mile per official, minimum $9.00).
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 10:27pm
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This is SOP in South Carolina, public and private schools. Crews almost always work a girls/boys doubleheader during the regular season, and even during regular season tournaments it's almost always doubleheaders. In the postseason, the SCHSL assigns doubleheaders whenever possible based on the brackets. And I think that's true up until the state semifinals, where we go to one crew per game.

I wish I didn't have to work doubleheaders or girls basketball in general, but that's just not the way it goes in this state.


Yes, the girls play first whenever it's a DH.
I understand this but it does not seem fair to the players to have officials working both games. I am sure there are officials like there are officials in my area that when they work two games take a break or do not give the same effort to both games equally because they have to work both games. I just think that is a silly model. And your comments make it clear that you like others might not care about one of the games as much as the other. To me give games to different officials and I am sure that is not impossible if you scheduled it correctly.

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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 11:58pm
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I understand this but it does not seem fair to the players to have officials working both games. I am sure there are officials like there are officials in my area that when they work two games take a break or do not give the same effort to both games equally because they have to work both games. I just think that is a silly model. And your comments make it clear that you like others might not care about one of the games as much as the other. To me give games to different officials and I am sure that is not impossible if you scheduled it correctly.

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Many things we do in SC are silly. It's why a lot of officials in my area work college ball or cross the border to work in Georgia. Which makes the powers that be upset .
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:28am
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Many things we do in SC are silly. It's why a lot of officials in my area work college ball or cross the border to work in Georgia. Which makes the powers that be upset .
GA is that much better? Granted, I lived there 15 years ago but I don't remember the fees being great. I also remember working split DHs in the playoffs (i.e., 4 games at a site, one crew worked games 1 & 3, the other worked games 2 & 4). For the fees at the time it really wasn't worth it financially to only work one game.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:15am
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Missouri uses a zone chart for district and state playoff games and pays a flat fee. For example, if you live between 0-40 miles from the game site there is a flat fee for that zone. If you live 41-80 miles away, the fee steps up to another flat rate, and so on. It is not quite as much as we make in the regular season, but it's close. The rates go up the further you go in the state playoffs.

I'll make a $78 flat rate for a sectional (first round of playoffs after district tournaments) that is about 15 miles from my house.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:22am
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Why in the world would anyone think a crew working two playoff games in the same night is a good thing? Let alone both genders in the same night?

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Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.

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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:35am
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Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.
You guys are getting hosed.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:44am
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Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.
I usually get paid around $60-70 dollars for a single varsity 3 person game and only one game. I get paid more for a college game than you would get paid for two high school games.

I am so glad that our state does not like that model for varsity games. The only way would would work a state playoff game double header is if someone is hurt and we happened to be there to cover the game.

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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 01:53pm
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We get about $53 for a 3-person here in Oregon. $63 for a 2-person.
Do 2 games get 2x pay.

Sub-rounds in playoffs which are all 2-person currently get a $5 bump.
Championship rounds which are all 2-person get a $10 bump.
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