Playoff fees in SC

[SC Official]

In South Carolina, an official gets $62 plus travel for one playoff game and $85 plus travel for a playoff doubleheader. The higher seeded team hosts the first three rounds. When the initial brackets come out, girls and boys are not scheduled to play on the same night. However, what happens sometimes is a school that's hosting a girls and boys playoff game will ask the SCHSL to move one of the games such that the girls and boys play back-to-back on the same night. As a result, the SCHSL sends only one crew of officials to the sight, and the officials receive the fee for a doubleheader rather than two separate games, which obviously is less.

Fair or foul?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

In South Carolina, an official gets $62 plus travel for one playoff game and $85 plus travel for a playoff doubleheader. The higher seeded team hosts the first three rounds. When the initial brackets come out, girls and boys are not scheduled to play on the same night. However, what happens sometimes is a school that's hosting a girls and boys playoff game will ask the SCHSL to move one of the games such that the girls and boys play back-to-back on the same night. As a result, the SCHSL sends only one crew of officials to the sight, and the officials receive the fee for a doubleheader rather than two separate games, which obviously is less.

Fair or foul?

What I think is unimportant. Thankfully working 2 games here pays twice what working 1 game pays.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by SC Official

In South Carolina, an official gets $62 plus travel for one playoff game and $85 plus travel for a playoff doubleheader.
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As a result, the SCHSL sends only one crew of officials to the sight, and the officials receive the fee for a doubleheader rather than two separate games, which obviously is less.

Fair or foul?

FOUL!!

I can see paying only one travel fee for a double header. I could even see paying a little less for the 2nd game since there are other efficiencies in doing a double header. But, to pay less than 1/3 as much for the 2nd game as the first is just criminal.

[JRutledge]

Why in the world would anyone think a crew working two playoff games in the same night is a good thing? Let alone both genders in the same night?

Peace

[Terrapins Fan]

I'm also willing to bet, that the girls play the first game, and after you've run the floor for four quarters, then you run for boys varsity.

Foul also. That's $42.50 per game. We get $45 for junior high games.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why in the world would anyone think a crew working two playoff games in the same night is a good thing? Let alone both genders in the same night?

Peace

This is SOP in South Carolina, public and private schools. Crews almost always work a girls/boys doubleheader during the regular season, and even during regular season tournaments it's almost always doubleheaders. In the postseason, the SCHSL assigns doubleheaders whenever possible based on the brackets. And I think that's true up until the state semifinals, where we go to one crew per game.

I wish I didn't have to work doubleheaders or girls basketball in general, but that's just not the way it goes in this state.

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I'm also willing to bet, that the girls play the first game, and after you've run the floor for four quarters, then you run for boys varsity.

Yes, the girls play first whenever it's a DH.

[Dad]

$85 for a playoff double header sounds insulting.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

This is SOP in South Carolina, public and private schools. Crews almost always work a girls/boys doubleheader during the regular season, and even during regular season tournaments it's almost always doubleheaders. In the postseason, the SCHSL assigns doubleheaders whenever possible based on the brackets. And I think that's true up until the state semifinals, where we go to one crew per game.

I wish I didn't have to work doubleheaders or girls basketball in general, but that's just not the way it goes in this state.


Yes, the girls play first whenever it's a DH.

I understand this but it does not seem fair to the players to have officials working both games. I am sure there are officials like there are officials in my area that when they work two games take a break or do not give the same effort to both games equally because they have to work both games. I just think that is a silly model. And your comments make it clear that you like others might not care about one of the games as much as the other. To me give games to different officials and I am sure that is not impossible if you scheduled it correctly.

Peace

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why in the world would anyone think a crew working two playoff games in the same night is a good thing? Let alone both genders in the same night?

Peace

Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.

You guys are getting hosed.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Here we work two games (boys and girls) every night. Regular season and playoffs. The only time we don't is during the state tournament. At that time you just work 1 game, and these are 2 man crews with the exception of the highest 2 classes.

$90 for 2 games plus mileage for first 2 rounds. $110 for third round. $65 per game at state tournament. Regular season games is $120/2 games no mileage. Some schools pay $130, some pay $110. We have no set regular season fees, the schools can pay whatever they want. I've had some 3 man games and received anywhere from $100 to $130 for two games.

I usually get paid around $60-70 dollars for a single varsity 3 person game and only one game. I get paid more for a college game than you would get paid for two high school games.

I am so glad that our state does not like that model for varsity games. The only way would would work a state playoff game double header is if someone is hurt and we happened to be there to cover the game.

Peace

[Blindolbat]

We get about $53 for a 3-person here in Oregon. $63 for a 2-person.
Do 2 games get 2x pay.

Sub-rounds in playoffs which are all 2-person currently get a $5 bump.
Championship rounds which are all 2-person get a $10 bump.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by SC Official

In South Carolina, an official gets $62 plus travel for one playoff game and $85 plus travel for a playoff doubleheader. The higher seeded team hosts the first three rounds. When the initial brackets come out, girls and boys are not scheduled to play on the same night. However, what happens sometimes is a school that's hosting a girls and boys playoff game will ask the SCHSL to move one of the games such that the girls and boys play back-to-back on the same night. As a result, the SCHSL sends only one crew of officials to the sight, and the officials receive the fee for a doubleheader rather than two separate games, which obviously is less.

Fair or foul?

In Michigan we generally do pay less for a second game of a double header in most sports for regular season play. We generally don't have the same crew work both games of a playoff round (we go districts, regionals, QF, SF, Final).

The districts often have a night or two of two games per night. In basketball it is generally a different crew for each night. Volleyball it is the same crew. For the regional semi-finals it is the same as two game night districts. Each crew works one game. The rest of the bracket is single games, so each crew only works one game. The only exception is the state finals, which have all 4 classes on the same day, but each crew works only 1 game.

For post-season play the MHSAA does not pay mileage until you reach a certain distance from home. After that distance they do pay a mileage rate.

The rates for post-season are similar, if not less than what schools pay during the regular season.

Michigan (for the regular season) is different than many other states. In many states, there is a set fee paid by each school to officials all across the state. In Michigan it differs based on the conference, school, or association agreed rate.

For example, in swimming and diving, I work two difference conferences. One pays $55 for a dual meet, the other pays $50, and neither pay mileage. A third conference pays $45, but they also pay extra for exhibition heats, which is something my conferences don't pay. None of them pay mileage. The MHSAA sets the fees for post-season contests across the state.