Vid Request: Texas vs Oklahoma

[griblets]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you got???

Anybody else have a PC foul? Defender was significantly displaced.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by griblets

Anybody else have a PC foul? Defender was significantly displaced.

No. Not sure how the defender was displaced significantly when the ball handler falls down?

Peace

[APG]

On the offensive foul on the drive...

I'm leaning toward a no call.The amount of contact does not match up to the reaction that the defender shows. I think the defender throws his arms in a "fool the referee" manner in order to draw a foul.

[griblets]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No. Not sure how the defender was displaced significantly when the ball handler falls down?

Peace

I'm with APG, I'd probably have a no call. But watch the defender's location at the time of impact and where he lands after the impact by the ball handler. The defender is displaced 3 or 4 feet. Why shouldn't this be PC?

As it relates to the defender's displacement, I don't see the relevance of the ball handler falling after he slammed into the defender's torso.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by griblets

I'm with APG, I'd probably have a no call. But watch the defender's location at the time of impact and where he lands after the impact by the ball handler. The defender is displaced 3 or 4 feet. Why shouldn't this be PC?

As it relates to the defender's displacement, I don't see the relevance of the ball handler falling after he slammed into the defender's torso.

The location of the impact means nothing to me. He stood his ground and the ball handler fell over. If he was put at a disadvantage, he would be at the other end of the lane or falling down himself.

Contact can be severe and not be a foul. I would not even come close to considering this a PC foul even if the ball handler was upright. And certainly not a high level call if made when players bounce off of each other often and no foul is called nor should be called.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by APG

On the offensive foul on the drive...

I'm leaning toward a no call.The amount of contact does not match up to the reaction that the defender shows. I think the defender throws his arms in a "fool the referee" manner in order to draw a foul.

Originally Posted by griblets

I'm with APG, I'd probably have a no call. But watch the defender's location at the time of impact and where he lands after the impact by the ball handler. The defender is displaced 3 or 4 feet. Why shouldn't this be PC?

As it relates to the defender's displacement, I don't see the relevance of the ball handler falling after he slammed into the defender's torso.

When a defender clearly embellishes contact, it doesn't absolve the ball handler from a PC foul, but it does make it more difficult for us to determine the severity of the contact.
For me, if I can't tell if a player was knocked down or fell due to his own embellishment, I'll probably no-call it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

When a defender clearly embellishes contact, it doesn't absolve the ball handler from a PC foul, but it does make it more difficult for us to determine the severity of the contact.
For me, if I can't tell if a player was knocked down or fell due to his own embellishment, I'll probably no-call it.

Are we talking about the same play? Are we talking about the travel play or the elbow drive play?

Peace

[jeremy341a]

I've got lost on who is talking about what play.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are we talking about the same play? Are we talking about the travel play or the elbow drive play?

Peace

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

I've got lost on who is talking about what play.

The main problem of putting more than one video in a thread. :/

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are we talking about the same play? Are we talking about the travel play or the elbow drive play?

Peace

I was discussing APG's comments on the defender embellishing contact.