End of Game Procedure

[packersowner]

Team A up by 10, A1 fouls B1 as time expires on a shot. No FTs to shoot as it has no bearing on game. Are you still going to table to report the foul and then ending the game? Or just simply ending the game and heading to the locker room?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by packersowner

Team A up by 10, A1 fouls B1 as time expires on a shot. No FTs to shoot as it has no bearing on game. Are you still going to table to report the foul and then ending the game? Or just simply ending the game and heading to the locker room?

What justification does an official have for just leaving? Maybe a safety situation such as the spectators rushing the court.
Otherwise, the rules state to not attempt the FTs, not to ignore or fail to report the foul.

[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What justification does an official have for just leaving? Maybe a safety situation such as the spectators rushing the court.
Otherwise, the rules state to not attempt the FTs, not to ignore or fail to report the foul.

Did you meant: attempt the free throws and not to ignore or fail to report the foul?
I'm reporting the foul and shooting the free throws, unless there is a safety concern!
These points could have a bearing on tournament or district seeding and they sure could matter to the kid that was fouled.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

Did you meant: attempt the free throws and not to ignore or fail to report the foul?
I'm reporting the foul and shooting the free throws, unless there is a safety concern!
These points could have a bearing on tournament or district seeding and they sure could matter to the kid that was fouled.

Tournament or district seedings are not our concern. Free throws which do not impact the outcome of the game are not shot. As for reporting a foul, I probably wouldn't do that either.

[JetMetFan]

I'm thinking the only reason to report a foul in that scenario is if it's flagrant (NF) or and F2 (NCAAW for me) since there's an automatic ejection attached. If it's a common foul there's really no purpose.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I'm thinking the only reason to report a foul in that scenario is if it's flagrant (NF) or and F2 (NCAAW for me) since there's an automatic ejection attached. If it's a common foul there's really no purpose.

In my state we could file a Special Report for any flagrant act or ejection that is normally field on these kinds of situations. So I would see no purpose to actually report if we decided to eject a player for a foul near the end of the game. But something tells me if such an act took place that resulted in some ejection, there would be a lot more going on that would have to be dealt with.

Peace

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

Did you meant: attempt the free throws and not to ignore or fail to report the foul?
I'm reporting the foul and shooting the free throws, unless there is a safety concern!
These points could have a bearing on tournament or district seeding and they sure could matter to the kid that was fouled.

Absolutely not. Not only is there no bearing on the game, but the rules clearly state to NOT shoot free throws that will not have an impact on the game.

[Rich]

I wouldn't report it. What's the point?

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich

I wouldn't report it. What's the point?

Better yet, why call it unless it was a very obvious foul?

You should be aware of the time on the clock. No need to call a foul unless it was very obvious and you want to reward free throws to a kid that maybe never sees the floor.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

Better yet, why call it unless it was a very obvious foul?

You should be aware of the time on the clock. No need to call a foul unless it was very obvious and you want to reward free throws to a kid that maybe never sees the floor.

Disagree. Don't give up on the game just because the winner has been determined. Call the foul, if time expires while you do it, so be it.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Adam

Disagree. Don't give up on the game just because the winner has been determined. Call the foul, if time expires while you do it, so be it.

So if there is a little touch foul or perhaps a small pushing foul on a rebound with about 2 seconds left, you would call that?

Sorry, but I'm not going to do that. Unless the other person was severely fouled and it was very noticeable, I'm not calling that and we are getting out of there.

To each his own.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

So if there is a little touch foul or perhaps a small pushing foul on a rebound with about 2 seconds left, you would call that?

Sorry, but I'm not going to do that. Unless the other person was severely fouled and it was very noticeable, I'm not calling that and we are getting out of there.

To each his own.

I will call whatever foul takes place. If the clock runs out, it runs out.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

So if there is a little touch foul or perhaps a small pushing foul on a rebound with about 2 seconds left, you would call that?

Yes, I would call it.

But, if you change the wording to "So if there is a little touch or perhaps a small push on a rebound...." then I would not call it (regardless of the time left).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

So if there is a little touch foul or perhaps a small pushing foul on a rebound with about 2 seconds left, you would call that?

Sorry, but I'm not going to do that. Unless the other person was severely fouled and it was very noticeable, I'm not calling that and we are getting out of there.

To each his own.

See bob's comments.

The way I'm picturing your description, I generally don't call those anyway. I'm going to call the fouls the same all game, but I may not actually report it if time expires as I call it.

A rebounding foul as time expires may get ignored with the same threshold I'd use to ignore a rebounding foul as a shot goes in or if the "fouled" player gets the rebound anyway.

[packersowner]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

Better yet, why call it unless it was a very obvious foul?

You should be aware of the time on the clock. No need to call a foul unless it was very obvious and you want to reward free throws to a kid that maybe never sees the floor.

In this situation, it was an obvious foul. I probably could have elaborated that it was a transition play as well so its not like everyone was sitting around waiting for the game to expire. In the order of play, it went shot, foul, whistle and within a half second the horn went off. I would hate to be on the other end of situation like that where the clock operator anticipated a foul, stops the clock and now you got nothing. Or even better yet, not realize there was actually 3 seconds left on the clock and not call anything, meanwhile the ball goes out of bounds and you have really compounded the issue.


I am not really arguing the merit of "calling a foul" merely asking whether you would go report this to the table or simply call it ball game and head off to the locker room.