Five Second, while holding in college

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

Did you see the OP and the video?
"They" are the officials in the video and referenced in the OP... The L should have a count sometime before the 12 seconds lapsed. Heck, the defender is wondering what he has to do - so he puts his hand on the offensive player...

What possible justification could there be for this?
Allowing him to hold for five and then starting the count would be wrong; but 12 seconds and no count is just... goofy!

Who justified it? You're painting all college officials with a broad brush based on one official. What does that one official have to do with me and other officials who do it properly?

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder concerning college officials.

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Who justified it? You're painting all college officials with a broad brush based on one official. What does that one official have to do with me and other officials who do it properly?

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder concerning college officials.

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He is probably like a lot of people here. When they see a college official do something, they lump them all together. But if high school only official does something, they are still working the righteous level. It is kind of funny if you ask me when I see a lot of individuals at the high school level cannot get a rule right, no one says, "Those darn high school officials just ignore the rules."

Peace

[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

He is probably like a lot of people here. When they see a college official do something, they lump them all together. But if high school only official does something, they are still working the righteous level. It is kind of funny if you ask me when I see a lot of individuals at the high school level cannot get a rule right, no one says, "Those darn high school officials just ignore the rules."

Peace

I don't know what you're talking about, and it sounds like you don't either...
Check the OP and watch the video and see what you think of the CG situation.
I love all basketball officials - even you man!

[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Who justified it? You're painting all college officials with a broad brush based on one official. What does that one official have to do with me and other officials who do it properly?

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder concerning college officials.

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"Who justified it?" I have no idea, but I'm sure there is some reasoning...
I think I asked a question: Do you think? Perhaps you're the one with the problem... You're taking the thread personal.
I watch college officials to learn, which is why I saw this.
The question is about the new rule perhaps making college officials lazy... I can't imagine another reason why this would get over looked to the tune of 12 seconds?
If it was a high school change and this happen - I'd say the same.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

"Who justified it?" I have no idea, but I'm sure there is some reasoning...
I think I asked a question: Do you think? Perhaps you're the one with the problem... You're taking the thread personal.
I watch college officials to learn, which is why I saw this.
The question is about the new rule perhaps making college officials lazy... I can't imagine another reason why this would get over looked to the tune of 12 seconds?
If it was a high school change and this happen - I'd say the same.

You're obviously stuck on this one official as a representative of all officials.

I'm a college and I use the mechanic. I just looked at the video from my last game and I used it 7 seconds into the game, then again 4 seconds later, then my crew chief 7 seconds later; three times on the first possession of the game.

Why don't you ask one of your mentors who is a college official if he is lazy? Why don't you send an email to the official in question and ask him why he doesn't use it? Why ask random folks who had nothing to do with that official or that game?

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[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You're obviously stuck on this one official as a representative of all officials.

I'm a college and I use the mechanic. Why don't you send an email to the official in question and adk him why he doesn't use it?

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You seem stuck.
The OP wasn't about one official, though now that you're stuck on it; I think I see how you got that from the OP.
The OP was about closely guarded five seconds and my question was; is the new rule perhaps to blame for this blatant overlooking of the obvious. Now, you may feel like this is an insult to the game officials... wasn't m intent!
I'm sure these are excellent officials and I can't imagine why they aren't counting?
BTW: I started the post off by saying I worked college on Saturday. I watch other officials to learn and happen to see this - figured it'd make for a good discussion... didn't know you'd read it as an indictment on every official that works college?