FT situation.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Shooter14

A1 shooting 2nd of 2 fts, B1 goes straight in and makes contact before ball hits rim. I called the foul, cleared the lane and let player reshoot ft since it was missed and we gave A the ball under the basket.

Correct? Contact was before ball hit rim.

I assume you mean that B1 makes contact with the FT shooter? If he's boxing out someone on the lane, contact is allowed before the ball hits the rim, in which case you could have a foul and possession (or bonus free throws), or possibly nothing at all if the contact was not egregious.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I assume you mean that B1 makes contact with the FT shooter? If he's boxing out someone on the lane, contact is allowed before the ball hits the rim, in which case you could have a foul and possession (or bonus free throws), or possibly nothing at all if the contact was not egregious.

The OP was right, this is confusing.

Why would contact need to be egregious for you to have a whistle? "Boxing out" is a foul if they move the player. No reason to wait for 'egregious' whatever contact that is.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Dad

The OP was right, this is confusing.

Why would contact need to be egregious for you to have a whistle? "Boxing out" is a foul if they move the player. No reason to wait for 'egregious' whatever contact that is.

Maybe the word egregious is a bit strong, but my point is still the same, if the boxing out action is against another player on the lane line, you could have a foul and possession or nothing, depending on how you judge the contact.

[Shooter14]

A1 released free throw, B1 came straight in and dislodged A1 before ball hit the rim, A1 missed the free throw.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Shooter14

A1 released free throw, B1 came straight in and dislodged A1 before ball hit the rim, A1 missed the free throw.

We have been instructed to go with a violation unless the contact rose to the level of it needed to be called. Then we have a violation and foul.

[OKREF]

I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.

As we discussed multiple times when the POE / pre-season guide came out -- many (and maybe most) places have said this is NOT an automatic foul and needs to be judged like other contact.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.

Did they change the incidental contact rule, too?

[Dad]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.

NFHS uses the word contact a lot. For the purpose of reading case books and test questions contact is always deemed a foul. NFHS will say incidental contact to make it clear they're talking about contact that isn't supposed to have a whistle on it.

I've always understood 'contact' by NFHS to mean a foul. Not that all contact is a foul.