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Old Mon Feb 08, 2016, 10:52am
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I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.
As we discussed multiple times when the POE / pre-season guide came out -- many (and maybe most) places have said this is NOT an automatic foul and needs to be judged like other contact.
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2016, 11:05am
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As we discussed multiple times when the POE / pre-season guide came out -- many (and maybe most) places have said this is NOT an automatic foul and needs to be judged like other contact.
That's why I said when in Rome.
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I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.
Did they change the incidental contact rule, too?
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Old Mon Feb 08, 2016, 11:40am
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Did they change the incidental contact rule, too?
Listen, I get it. I just know how we've been instructed to call it here.

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Listen, I get it. I just know how we've been instructed to call it here.
Believe me, I can understand that.
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I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.
NFHS uses the word contact a lot. For the purpose of reading case books and test questions contact is always deemed a foul. NFHS will say incidental contact to make it clear they're talking about contact that isn't supposed to have a whistle on it.

I've always understood 'contact' by NFHS to mean a foul. Not that all contact is a foul.
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This situation was warranted to call a foul. It was already getting chippy. Then on the free throw (from C), I watched the defensive player take a straight path into the shooter and root him out. In my judgement, the player absolutely knew that as soon as the ball was released, he was going to be making good contact.
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This situation was warranted to call a foul. It was already getting chippy. Then on the free throw (from C), I watched the defensive player take a straight path into the shooter and root him out. In my judgement, the player absolutely knew that as soon as the ball was released, he was going to be making good contact.
Then I like the idea of the violation AND the foul.
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