NFHS. Time Out

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Disagree, it emphasizes that it's a process that involves more than one step. Time out is requested. Official makes sure that all the conditions for the time out being granted are met. Time out is, or isn't, granted. Thus is especially important in training new officials. Many experienced veterans take this process for granted, making the entire process almost automatic.

It's semantics, nothing more. The common usage doesn't perpetuate any myths. There are even case plays or interps that use the terms interchangeably.

No one thinks that when a coach calls for a timeout it's automatically granted, there is no confusion on the process by anyone.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

It's semantics, nothing more. The common usage doesn't perpetuate any myths. There are even case plays or interps that use the terms interchangeably.

No one thinks that when a coach calls for a timeout it's automatically granted, there is no confusion on the process by anyone.

Exactly. When I saw the first post in this thread mentioning the "called" vs. "requested" canard, I could hear my eyes rolling in my head.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

When I saw the first post in this thread mentioning the "called" vs. "requested" canard, I could hear my eyes rolling in my head.

Thank God nobody called timeout from the baseline.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thank God nobody called timeout from the baseline.

I say "end line." It's become habit. I would never correct or think to correct anyone who says baseline. Funny enough, I was speaking at some thing a while back and someone came up and said, "I knew right away when you said 'end line' that you knew what you were talking about." Not really.

There are things that make my skin crawl..."reach", "over the back", "on the floor." I have partners that say these phrases and I've cringed silently and mentioned it once in a while to ones that I know would take it the right way.

But requesting and calling for a time out? Please.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

I say "end line." It's become habit. I would never correct or think to correct anyone who says baseline. Funny enough, I was speaking at some thing a while back and someone came up and said, "I knew right away when you said 'end line' that you knew what you were talking about." Not really.

There are things that make my skin crawl..."reach", "over the back", "on the floor." I have partners that say these phrases and I've cringed silently and mentioned it once in a while to ones that I know would take it the right way.

But requesting and calling for a time out? Please.

My thoughts exactly....on every point.

[OfficialBFish]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thank God nobody called timeout from the baseline.

Funny you mention it, today I actually had a parent try to call timeout for his kid when he went to the floor.. Gotta love rec league

[WhistlesAndStripes]

If a head coach requests a timeout, but you know that he does not have any left, do you grant it anyways and then assess the technical foul , or do you just ignore the request and save the headache of the technical foul?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

If a head coach requests a timeout, but you know that he does not have any left, do you grant it anyways and then assess the technical foul , or do you just ignore the request and save the headache of the technical foul?

What headache?

And, maybe the coach wants the T because he'd rather have the clock stopped (after scoring to cut the deficit to 1, with less than 5 seconds left, for example).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

If a head coach requests a timeout, but you know that he does not have any left, do you grant it anyways and then assess the technical foul , or do you just ignore the request and save the headache of the technical foul?

Of all the technical fouls, this is the least likely to result in headaches.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Last night MTD, Jr., and I had players from the Home Team request a TO in the 4th QT without being instructed to make the request by their HC. Both times it was in a trap situation in the team's backcourt.

In the 34 years that I officiated women's college basketball it was not unusual for a player to make the request in the 1970s and early 1980s, but it seemed that once the NCAA took over the rules writing duties from NAGWS it became more and more a very rare occurrence. And I really cannot remember it happening in any game after the 1990s.

But at least a couple of times a year at the H.S. level a player will make the request without being told by his/her HC. So it was surprising to have it happen twice in one quarter last night by the same team and different players.

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

Of all the technical fouls, this is the least likely to result in headaches.

Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game

Calvin Coolidge once said, "The things I did not say never hurt me." Of course, he was not talking about basketball, but many officials would be smart to heed his sage advice as they communicate with coaches, and players.

Good communication skills are important tools to have on any official’s tool belt. Good communication with a partner, with a player, or with a coach, can go a long way to maintaining control of the game, having good game management, and having a smooth game. Sometimes this communication takes place in oral form, talking to players, or coaches, in some cases to explain a ruling, or in other cases to prevent a violation, or a foul. However, probably for reasons of tradition, there have been things that officials often, or sometimes, say during a game that do not have any basis in the rules, and should probably not be said in a game. This article will cover some of those “best left unsaid” statements.

"Coach, you have one timeout left", is a courtesy often extended by officials to coaches, when, by rule, officials should only be notifying head coaches when their team has been granted its final allowable timeout. If there is any miscommunication, or mistake, involving the table crew reporting remaining timeouts, then the officials, by rule, need to stay out of the conversation. Let the coaches, and table crew, communicate about remaining timeouts, other than when a team has been granted its final allowable timeout, which by rule, is required to be reported to the coach by the officials.

Finally, a thought by Will Rogers, “Never miss a good chance to shut up.”

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Rich

. . . I could hear my eyes rolling in my head.

How does that work, exactly?