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Old Fri Feb 05, 2016, 03:02pm
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Head Coaches and players can only request a time out.

Officials can grant a time out requested by the Head Coaches and/or players, provided that the appropriate conditions are met.
In my experience this nit is neither helpful nor substantive.
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2016, 06:13pm
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In my experience this nit is neither helpful nor substantive.
Disagree, it emphasizes that it's a process that involves more than one step. Time out is requested. Official makes sure that all the conditions for the time out being granted are met. Time out is, or isn't, granted. Thus is especially important in training new officials. Many experienced veterans take this process for granted, making the entire process almost automatic.
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2016, 11:26pm
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Disagree, it emphasizes that it's a process that involves more than one step. Time out is requested. Official makes sure that all the conditions for the time out being granted are met. Time out is, or isn't, granted. Thus is especially important in training new officials. Many experienced veterans take this process for granted, making the entire process almost automatic.
No one is arguing the granted part. What we don't care about is whether it is called or requested, both are the same.

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Old Sat Feb 06, 2016, 10:00am
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Disagree, it emphasizes that it's a process that involves more than one step. Time out is requested. Official makes sure that all the conditions for the time out being granted are met. Time out is, or isn't, granted. Thus is especially important in training new officials. Many experienced veterans take this process for granted, making the entire process almost automatic.
It's semantics, nothing more. The common usage doesn't perpetuate any myths. There are even case plays or interps that use the terms interchangeably.

No one thinks that when a coach calls for a timeout it's automatically granted, there is no confusion on the process by anyone.
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2016, 11:03am
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It's semantics, nothing more. The common usage doesn't perpetuate any myths. There are even case plays or interps that use the terms interchangeably.

No one thinks that when a coach calls for a timeout it's automatically granted, there is no confusion on the process by anyone.
Exactly. When I saw the first post in this thread mentioning the "called" vs. "requested" canard, I could hear my eyes rolling in my head.
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2016, 11:23am
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When I saw the first post in this thread mentioning the "called" vs. "requested" canard, I could hear my eyes rolling in my head.
Thank God nobody called timeout from the baseline.

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Old Sat Feb 06, 2016, 11:28am
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Thank God nobody called timeout from the baseline.
I say "end line." It's become habit. I would never correct or think to correct anyone who says baseline. Funny enough, I was speaking at some thing a while back and someone came up and said, "I knew right away when you said 'end line' that you knew what you were talking about." Not really.

There are things that make my skin crawl..."reach", "over the back", "on the floor." I have partners that say these phrases and I've cringed silently and mentioned it once in a while to ones that I know would take it the right way.

But requesting and calling for a time out? Please.
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I say "end line." It's become habit. I would never correct or think to correct anyone who says baseline. Funny enough, I was speaking at some thing a while back and someone came up and said, "I knew right away when you said 'end line' that you knew what you were talking about." Not really.

There are things that make my skin crawl..."reach", "over the back", "on the floor." I have partners that say these phrases and I've cringed silently and mentioned it once in a while to ones that I know would take it the right way.

But requesting and calling for a time out? Please.
My thoughts exactly....on every point.
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2016, 10:15pm
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Thank God nobody called timeout from the baseline.

Funny you mention it, today I actually had a parent try to call timeout for his kid when he went to the floor.. Gotta love rec league
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2016, 10:59pm
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If a head coach requests a timeout, but you know that he does not have any left, do you grant it anyways and then assess the technical foul , or do you just ignore the request and save the headache of the technical foul?
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. . . I could hear my eyes rolling in my head.
How does that work, exactly?
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