Block/charge and line

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Doesn't at some point the defender have to have had a LGP in the path of the offensive player?

Not if he's stationary.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Adam

Not if he's stationary.

That's true. You're right.

[deecee]

I think this is over complicating a pretty straightforward expected outcome for contact with a defender that has a foot OOB. The result is a block. Any mention, LGP or otherwise, is that the contact is illegal. I will stick with that until I am explicitly told otherwise. If all the salmon are swimming one direction I don't need to be heading downstream.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by deecee

I think this is over complicating a pretty straightforward expected outcome for contact with a defender that has a foot OOB. The result is a block. Any mention, LGP or otherwise, is that the contact is illegal. I will stick with that until I am explicitly told otherwise. If all the salmon are swimming one direction I don't need to be heading downstream.

Sometimes what we think and what is true are very far apart.

There are plenty of people on both sides of this.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Dad

Sometimes what we think and what is true are very far apart.

There are plenty of people on both sides of this.

I don't see plenty on both sides. I see a vast majority on one.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

I think this is over complicating a pretty straightforward expected outcome for contact with a defender that has a foot OOB. The result is a block. Any mention, LGP or otherwise, is that the contact is illegal. I will stick with that until I am explicitly told otherwise. If all the salmon are swimming one direction I don't need to be heading downstream.

The underlying rule covering this is specifially about LGP. The case cited above does as well. No other case or rule that I've seen says it is fair game to run into someone who is OOB anymore than it is fair game to run into a stationary player who has his/her back to the offensive player.

[deecee]

If the expectation is that with LGP it is illegal why in the heck would it not apply to any other condition? Running over someone who has LGP or is just standing there is the same thing. It's running over someone who has a position on the court.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

If the expectation is that with LGP it is illegal why in the heck would it not apply to any other condition? Running over someone who has LGP or is just standing there is the same thing. It's running over someone who has a position on the court.

Don't know, but the rule is only that you can't have LGP while OOB. So, it follows that if LGP isn't part of the decision, then it isn't automatically a block. No part of the rule says all contact by a player OOB is a block.