What a night

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

Also how long is too long to pull the trigger on a bench technical foul? On several occasions (nearly a dozen) the entire visiting coaching staff (this guy had 4 assistants) were up yelling at the officials about foul calls and such.

First time I see this, I'm warning the HC (unless it's really bad).

After that, it's a T the very next time.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Adam

First time I see this, I'm warning the HC (unless it's really bad).

After that, it's a T the very next time.

Guys & Gals, let's theorize for a moment on the potentials in this type of situation - this could be fun!

HC has been warned, then more than one assistant subsequently stands and yells at the officials about a call. You can clearly identify which assistants stood.

By rule, how are you going to handle this?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Guys & Gals, let's theorize for a moment on the potentials in this type of situation - this could be fun!

HC has been warned, then more than one assistant subsequently stands and yells at the officials about a call. You can clearly identify which assistants stood.

By rule, how are you going to handle this?

I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at here, but I think I've got the basic gist.

By rule, you call a direct technical on each assistant that stood and yelled at the officials. The HC is charged with an indirect T for each of these technicals. If the number of TFs on the Assistants is 3 or more, then the HC is going to be ejected. 2 FTs for each TF on an assistant. Then the ball to the other team at the division line opposite the table.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at here, but I think I've got the basic gist.

By rule, you call a direct technical on each assistant that stood and yelled at the officials. The HC is charged with an indirect T for each of these technicals. If the number of TFs on the Assistants is 3 or more, then the HC is going to be ejected. 2 FTs for each TF on an assistant. Then the ball to the other team at the division line opposite the table.

Yep, that's exactly what I was getting at......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at here, but I think I've got the basic gist.

By rule, you call a direct technical on each assistant that stood and yelled at the officials. The HC is charged with an indirect T for each of these technicals. If the number of TFs on the Assistants is 3 or more, then the HC is going to be ejected. 2 FTs for each TF on an assistant. Then the ball to the other team at the division line opposite the table.

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Yep, that's exactly what I was getting at......

Take a look at 10.4.4B and see if you change your minds.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

What a night.

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

SCalScoreKeeper's thread title haunted me.

Guess what the link is and enjoy.

https://youtu.be/t3RqEl9s6NI

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Yeah-it was amusing,and I had a club volleyball tournament to officiate the next morning too lol

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Adam

Take a look at 10.4.4B and see if you change your minds.

Maybe.

If, as the casebook says, they're all doing the same thing at the same time in reaction to the same thing, then I'd assess a single bench technical which is also charged indirect to the HC. If, however, one ASSistant is yelling about a traveling call, and another ASSistant is at the same time yelling about a foul he thinks should have been called, I'm whacking them both individually, and charging 2 indirects to the HC.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Adam

Take a look at 10.4.4B and see if you change your minds.

Wrong rule - try 10.4.1.A

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Adam

Take a look at 10.4.4B and see if you change your minds.

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Wrong rule - try 10.4.1.A

I think the point Adam is trying to make that is brought up in 10.4.4.B is the idea of "similar multiple infractions occuring at the same time." That's why I say if all 4 ASSistants are booing the same call at the same time, then I'll throw a single bench technical. But if they're all whining about different things at the same time, I'll whack them each individually and let the coach have an early shower.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at here, but I think I've got the basic gist.

By rule, you call a direct technical on each assistant that stood and yelled at the officials. The HC is charged with an indirect T for each of these technicals. If the number of TFs on the Assistants is 3 or more, then the HC is going to be ejected. 2 FTs for each TF on an assistant. Then the ball to the other team at the division line opposite the table.

But in reality this would only be the case if all 3 said something to earn a T, other wise I'm sticking one with a T. If it happens again I'm sticking one with a T again. I wouldn't dish out 3 T's here unless they each said "you're a @#$@# piece of @#$" or something to that effect. Then they are probably all gone, HC included. Game forfeit. I get to go home early. Not a bad finish actually.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by deecee

But in reality this would only be the case if all 3 said something to earn a T, other wise I'm sticking one with a T. If it happens again I'm sticking one with a T again. I wouldn't dish out 3 T's here unless they each said "you're a @#$@# piece of @#$" or something to that effect. Then they are probably all gone, HC included. Game forfeit. I get to go home early. Not a bad finish actually.

"When the fans leave the stands and all hell breaks loose, my job is done."

Deecee 2014 or 15. Still makes me chuckle. I can't remember which year you said it.