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SCalScoreKeeper Mon Feb 01, 2016 02:56pm

What a night
 
So Saturday night was our school's homecoming night.I guess I needed Pagett cause my JV girls game went dobule OT :eek: ;). The other 3 games all came down to the wire also.One thing I want to ask the wise sage's of the board-visiting varsity boys coaching staff asked me for the names of the officials so they could write a complaint to the area assignor.I refused and told them to talk to their AD who can pull the names from Arbiter.
Right move? Wrong move? No opinion?

Also how long is too long to pull the trigger on a bench technical foul? On several occasions (nearly a dozen) the entire visiting coaching staff (this guy had 4 assistants) were up yelling at the officials about foul calls and such.

WhistlesAndStripes Mon Feb 01, 2016 02:59pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 978947)
So Saturday night was our school's homecoming night.I guess I needed Pagett cause my JV girls game went dobule OT :eek: ;). The other 3 games all came down to the wire also.One thing I want to ask the wise sage's of the board-visiting varsity boys coaching staff asked me for the names of the officials so they could write a complaint to the area assignor.I refused and told them to talk to their AD who can pull the names from Arbiter.
Right move? Wrong move? No opinion?

Also how long is too long to pull the trigger on a bench technical foul? On several occasions (nearly a dozen) the entire visiting coaching staff (this guy had 4 assistants) were up yelling at the officials about foul calls and such.

You did the right thing by referring them to the AD.

As far as the bench technical, the first time I hear something from an assistant, I'm inclined to tell the HC to take care of his bench. The second time, I whack without hesitation. And if the first comment is bad enough, I'll whack without warning. There's no way I'm listening to a group of 4 ASSistants for ANY length of time.

jTheUmp Mon Feb 01, 2016 03:02pm

My quote to a HC last week: "Coach, I will listen to you... (pointing to assistant) I will not listen to him"

AC didn't say anything after that... I only wish I'd have said it earlier.

TimTaylor Mon Feb 01, 2016 03:03pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 978950)
You did the right thing by referring them to the AD.

As far as the bench technical, the first time I hear something from an assistant, I'm inclined to tell the HC to take care of his bench. The second time, I whack without hesitation. And if the first comment is bad enough, I'll whack without warning. There's no way I'm listening to a group of 4 ASSistants for ANY length of time.

Agree..

Adam Mon Feb 01, 2016 03:05pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 978947)
Also how long is too long to pull the trigger on a bench technical foul? On several occasions (nearly a dozen) the entire visiting coaching staff (this guy had 4 assistants) were up yelling at the officials about foul calls and such.

First time I see this, I'm warning the HC (unless it's really bad).

After that, it's a T the very next time.

TimTaylor Mon Feb 01, 2016 03:21pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 978954)
First time I see this, I'm warning the HC (unless it's really bad).

After that, it's a T the very next time.

Guys & Gals, let's theorize for a moment on the potentials in this type of situation - this could be fun!

HC has been warned, then more than one assistant subsequently stands and yells at the officials about a call. You can clearly identify which assistants stood.

By rule, how are you going to handle this?

Camron Rust Mon Feb 01, 2016 03:25pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 978947)
So Saturday night was our school's homecoming night.I guess I needed Pagett cause my JV girls game went dobule OT :eek: ;). The other 3 games all came down to the wire also.One thing I want to ask the wise sage's of the board-visiting varsity boys coaching staff asked me for the names of the officials so they could write a complaint to the area assignor.I refused and told them to talk to their AD who can pull the names from Arbiter.
Right move? Wrong move? No opinion?

The names should be in the scorebook. No reason for them to not have access to what is in the scorebook.

WhistlesAndStripes Mon Feb 01, 2016 03:30pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor (Post 978957)
Guys & Gals, let's theorize for a moment on the potentials in this type of situation - this could be fun!

HC has been warned, then more than one assistant subsequently stands and yells at the officials about a call. You can clearly identify which assistants stood.

By rule, how are you going to handle this?

I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at here, but I think I've got the basic gist.

By rule, you call a direct technical on each assistant that stood and yelled at the officials. The HC is charged with an indirect T for each of these technicals. If the number of TFs on the Assistants is 3 or more, then the HC is going to be ejected. 2 FTs for each TF on an assistant. Then the ball to the other team at the division line opposite the table.

TimTaylor Mon Feb 01, 2016 03:33pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 978960)
I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at here, but I think I've got the basic gist.

By rule, you call a direct technical on each assistant that stood and yelled at the officials. The HC is charged with an indirect T for each of these technicals. If the number of TFs on the Assistants is 3 or more, then the HC is going to be ejected. 2 FTs for each TF on an assistant. Then the ball to the other team at the division line opposite the table.

Yep, that's exactly what I was getting at......

deecee Mon Feb 01, 2016 03:48pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 978960)
I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at here, but I think I've got the basic gist.

By rule, you call a direct technical on each assistant that stood and yelled at the officials. The HC is charged with an indirect T for each of these technicals. If the number of TFs on the Assistants is 3 or more, then the HC is going to be ejected. 2 FTs for each TF on an assistant. Then the ball to the other team at the division line opposite the table.

But in reality this would only be the case if all 3 said something to earn a T, other wise I'm sticking one with a T. If it happens again I'm sticking one with a T again. I wouldn't dish out 3 T's here unless they each said "you're a @#$@# piece of @#$" or something to that effect. Then they are probably all gone, HC included. Game forfeit. I get to go home early. Not a bad finish actually.

OKREF Mon Feb 01, 2016 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 978958)
The names should be in the scorebook. No reason for them to not have access to what is in the scorebook.

My thoughts as well. I know here in my state, we are required to sign each teams books, as well as our ID number.

Smitty Mon Feb 01, 2016 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 978958)
The names should be in the scorebook. No reason for them to not have access to what is in the scorebook.

We never write our names in the scorebook, but the coaches have access to the Arbiter and who is assigned to their games by name and picture. That's how they can choose (during district play) to get different refs if they so choose.

BryanV21 Mon Feb 01, 2016 04:34pm

I'm wondering why in the World did you put up with the assistants like that?

BigCat Mon Feb 01, 2016 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 978971)
I'm wondering why in the World did you put up with the assistants like that?

Maybe because.....SCalScoreKeeper....was the scorekeeper...:cool:

BigCat Mon Feb 01, 2016 04:52pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 978964)
But in reality this would only be the case if all 3 said something to earn a T, other wise I'm sticking one with a T. If it happens again I'm sticking one with a T again. I wouldn't dish out 3 T's here unless they each said "you're a @#$@# piece of @#$" or something to that effect. Then they are probably all gone, HC included. Game forfeit. I get to go home early. Not a bad finish actually.


"When the fans leave the stands and all hell breaks loose, my job is done."

Deecee 2014 or 15. Still makes me chuckle. I can't remember which year you said it.


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