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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:59am
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I had a situation last night where the AC was complaining about a call very loudly. Next time by, I told the coach to control his bench. He was incredulous and actually started laughing at me. I was surprised. He ended up earning a T later in the game, not surprisingly. The AC was on good behavior from there out though, so I guess it accomplished what I hoped it would.
You didn't whack a coach laughing at you?

Care to explain why you think that's even close to a good idea?
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:04am
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You didn't whack a coach laughing at you?

Care to explain why you think that's even close to a good idea?
Good question. I've heard many times on here that you'll never regret whacking a coach but you'll regret the ones that you don't that deserve it. This is one instance that I definitely regret. It wasn't a belly laugh, more like just being a prick if you can imagine the difference. I have no idea why I didn't because I've been pretty quick on the trigger this year.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:08am
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Good question. I've heard many times on here that you'll never regret whacking a coach but you'll regret the ones that you don't that deserve it. This is one instance that I definitely regret. It wasn't a belly laugh, more like just being a prick if you can imagine the difference. I have no idea why I didn't because I've been pretty quick on the trigger this year.
More like a snicker, if you will?
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:14am
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More like a snicker, if you will?
Yeah, just being condescending. Like I've said on here before, I look a lot younger than I am (sorry for the humblebrag) so I catch a lot of this crap from guys that have never had me. Most of the ones that have had me are pretty good to me. I also want to keep getting more V games, so I don't want to be known as a guy that goes looking for T's.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:21am
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I'm not a fan of the statement "Coach, control your bench". I'm not telling a coach what to do with is personnel. I will either directly tell an assistant his comments won't be tolerated or I will tell the coach his assistants do not have the same privileges he does. Most of the time my comments are directly to the AC.


What happens after that is on them.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:38am
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I'm not a fan of the statement "Coach, control your bench". I'm not telling a coach what to do with is personnel. I will either directly tell an assistant his comments won't be tolerated or I will tell the coach his assistants do not have the same privileges he does. Most of the time my comments are directly to the AC.


What happens after that is on them.
I like this. My only thought is if you talk to an assistant he may talk back, then you have a problem that you may have avoided.

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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:41am
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I like this. My only thought is if you talk to an assistant he may talk back, then you have a problem that you may have avoided.

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They're already talking, that's why I'm addressing them. It won't be a dialogue because I will be gone from the spot before they have a chance to respond.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:33am
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Yeah, just being condescending. Like I've said on here before, I look a lot younger than I am (sorry for the humblebrag) so I catch a lot of this crap from guys that have never had me. Most of the ones that have had me are pretty good to me. I also want to keep getting more V games, so I don't want to be known as a guy that goes looking for T's.
It's not a humblebrag -- it's not an asset when it comes to officiating until you're old enough for people to know you've been around 20 years and still only look like you're in your late 20s.

Our partner last night looked like he's 14. He's a good official and will get even better, but you can tell it affects how people treat him.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:42am
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It's not a humblebrag -- it's not an asset when it comes to officiating until you're old enough for people to know you've been around 20 years and still only look like you're in your late 20s.

Our partner last night looked like he's 14. He's a good official and will get even better, but you can tell it affects how people treat him.
That's my problem. So I have to be a little quicker otherwise I'll hear it all night. But I also have to be careful because I don't want to lose games because that's my only tool. So I try to be approachable and laid back but have a distinct line in the sand that if it's crossed I won't hesitate. How would I justify to an evaluator whacking a guy for snickering? Do you guys think it would make me look bad or would they know what I was trying to accomplish?
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:44am
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That's my problem. So I have to be a little quicker otherwise I'll hear it all night. But I also have to be careful because I don't want to lose games because that's my only tool. So I try to be approachable and laid back but have a distinct line in the sand that if it's crossed I won't hesitate. How would I justify to an evaluator whacking a guy for snickering? Do you guys think it would make me look bad or would they know what I was trying to accomplish?
"I asked him to do something and he laughed at me."

I assign and I would *always* back you on this.
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That's my problem. So I have to be a little quicker otherwise I'll hear it all night. But I also have to be careful because I don't want to lose games because that's my only tool. So I try to be approachable and laid back but have a distinct line in the sand that if it's crossed I won't hesitate. How would I justify to an evaluator whacking a guy for snickering? Do you guys think it would make me look bad or would they know what I was trying to accomplish?
That's why I don't like to tell head coaches to "control their bench". There is no room for snickering when you tell the HC "I'm not tolerating any more comments from your assistants."
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Yeah, just being condescending. Like I've said on here before, I look a lot younger than I am (sorry for the humblebrag) so I catch a lot of this crap from guys that have never had me. Most of the ones that have had me are pretty good to me. I also want to keep getting more V games, so I don't want to be known as a guy that goes looking for T's.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I'm 23. Many of the coaches around here have been coaching longer than I've been alive. They know who the newbies are and they're going to test them.
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