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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 08:48am
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well, im 45 and old

while its not proper it was to block a pass from going between my legs, i had my arms and hands ready to deflect a pass to either side
So the bolded part should answer your question as to whether or not it was a kick.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 08:51am
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So the bolded part should answer your question as to whether or not it was a kick.
.....if i had moved my knees together while the pass was in the air.

however i closed my legs before the ball left his hand
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 09:04am
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.....if i had moved my knees together while the pass was in the air.

however i closed my legs before the ball left his hand
we know what you did, and when.

It likely doesn't matter.

Play: Ball rolls away from players. A1 sees he ball coming toward him and doesn't move his leg. The ball rolls and hits A1 in the leg and A1 reaches down and picks up the ball. Ruling: Kicking violation.

Play: A1 and B1 are on the floor fighting for a "loose ball." The ball rolls into A1's legs and A1 clamps the ball so B1 cant' pull it away. Ruling" Kicking violation.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 09:28am
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we know what you did, and when.

It likely doesn't matter.

Play: Ball rolls away from players. A1 sees he ball coming toward him and doesn't move his leg. The ball rolls and hits A1 in the leg and A1 reaches down and picks up the ball. Ruling: Kicking violation.

Play: A1 and B1 are on the floor fighting for a "loose ball." The ball rolls into A1's legs and A1 clamps the ball so B1 cant' pull it away. Ruling" Kicking violation.
Bob, I never feel good about disagreeing with you. However, you're wrong on the first play. You cannot have a kicking violation from inaction.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 09:48am
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Bob, I never feel good about disagreeing with you. However, you're wrong on the first play. You cannot have a kicking violation from inaction.
Eastshire I agree with you. This isnt a violation. It is like we are deeming any time a ball hits the leg its a violation because you cant use your leg to defend a pass. What I mean is this. If a leg isnt moving it is not kicking. Even if I think he might pass I can move my legs into a defensive position. If I intend to move my leg to stop the ball its a kick. He wasnt moving his leg. If I think his feet were still moving into that position when the ball tries to go between his leg of course it is a kick. You would be calling intentional kicking on non-moving legs all the time because the kid put his leg in the passing lane and it was there before the pass hit it therefore he intentional kicked the ball. I would love to have more chime in here that if I put my leg down in the passing lane and it isnt moving that I kicked the ball intentionally without my foot moving because I knew it was going to have a ball hit it.

Kicking the ball is intentionally striking it with any part of the leg or foot.

How is a stationary leg striking the ball if it isnt moving....the ball hit it... the leg didnt move and hit the ball.

Interesting discussion.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 09:56am
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Eastshire I agree with you. This isnt a violation. It is like we are deeming any time a ball hits the leg its a violation because you cant use your leg to defend a pass. What I mean is this. If a leg isnt moving it is not kicking. Even if I think he might pass I can move my legs into a defensive position. If I intend to move my leg to stop the ball its a kick. He wasnt moving his leg. If I think his feet were still moving into that position when the ball tries to go between his leg of course it is a kick. You would be calling intentional kicking on non-moving legs all the time because the kid put his leg in the passing lane and it was there before the pass hit it therefore he intentional kicked the ball. I would love to have more chime in here that if I put my leg down in the passing lane and it isnt moving that I kicked the ball intentionally without my foot moving because I knew it was going to have a ball hit it.

Kicking the ball is intentionally striking it with any part of the leg or foot.

How is a stationary leg striking the ball if it isnt moving....the ball hit it... the leg didnt move and hit the ball.

Interesting discussion.
the bolded there was my stance on it. i didnt jump in the way of the pass nor did i extend any part of my leg to deflect the pass. i stodd there and closed my legs before the ball ever left his hand. in my mind, thats not a kicking motion even though technically it hit my leg
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2016, 09:59am
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the bolded there was my stance on it. i didnt jump in the way of the pass nor did i extend any part of my leg to deflect the pass. i stodd there and closed my legs before the ball ever left his hand. in my mind, thats not a kicking motion even though technically it hit my leg
It's what the official called it. End of story.

I'll leave the thread open, but the OP would be wise to stop repeating the same thing over and over and over again.
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