Co-Head Coach Whacked

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

When I'm working a team I've never worked before, I ask when we go over for handshakes "who's the boss?". I have partners who will ask the players who the HC is during warm-ups. There is really no excuse for us not to garner that information prior to tip-off.

With the change in the pre-game conference contained in this year's Official's Manual, which now calls for ONE conference that includes the captains and the head coaches, this should be very easy information to get at that time. Call for the head coach from each team to join in the pow wow, and you have your information.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

Last night we had the pleasure of having co-head coaches. As the R, I told them whoever is standing will be considered the head coach for the night.

They were both chirping about traveling. I informally told them to watch the player's pivot foot and these were not travels.

A few minutes later the sitting coach was still at it. It was a dead ball and I gave the most official bench warning I have ever given in my young career. I proceed to the center position for our free throw and the sitting coach is still yelling about being a co-head coach......WHACK!

Then a few minutes later in the game, the standing coach (who is now sitting) asks why he wasn't given more leeway.

Wasn't the first time, won't be the last, but seriously, "WHAT THE HELL?!?!?"

There is no such thing as a "co-head coach" as far as I'm concerned. I'm only dealing with one person when it comes to conveying info and an acknowledging timeout requests by rule. Everyone else bench personnel.

And I have very little tolerance for bench chatter. I would not have been telling "them" anything in regards to travels or what to watch for. Only the HC and only if he had a specific question. I'm not getting into a debate on travels with the HC, let alone an assistant.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

With the change in the pre-game conference contained in this year's Official's Manual, which now calls for ONE conference that includes the captains and the head coaches, this should be very easy information to get at that time. Call for the head coach from each team to join in the pow wow, and you have your information.

In Virginia we still do a players only captains meeting at mid court, usually between the 15 and 10 minute mark, and then meet and greet the coaches in front of their respective benches somewhere around the 2:30 mark of pre-games. At that time I'll ask who the HC is if I don't already know or its not clear.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

With the change in the pre-game conference contained in this year's Official's Manual, which now calls for ONE conference that includes the captains and the head coaches, this should be very easy information to get at that time. Call for the head coach from each team to join in the pow wow, and you have your information.

We don't do that in Wisconsin, either. Still a captain's meeting at 12 minutes and greet the coach at 1:30.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

With the change in the pre-game conference contained in this year's Official's Manual, which now calls for ONE conference that includes the captains and the head coaches, this should be very easy information to get at that time. Call for the head coach from each team to join in the pow wow, and you have your information.

Originally Posted by VaTerp

In Virginia we still do a players only captains meeting at mid court, usually between the 15 and 10 minute mark, and then meet and greet the coaches in front of their respective benches somewhere around the 2:30 mark of pre-games. At that time I'll ask who the HC is if I don't already know or its not clear.

Originally Posted by Rich

We don't do that in Wisconsin, either. Still a captain's meeting at 12 minutes and greet the coach at 1:30.

When do you all intend to join the rest of us in following what NF wants?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

When do you all intend to join the rest of us in following what NF wants?

I don't sit on the VHSL basketball committee, so I can't give you that answer. No one around here ever discusses it, go figure.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

When do you all intend to join the rest of us in following what NF wants?

I do what my state wants and they have a pregame protocol we are to follow.

[BillyMac]

The more coaches, the more fun the game is.

[SE Minnestoa Re]

Originally Posted by Rich

We don't do that in Wisconsin, either. Still a captain's meeting at 12 minutes and greet the coach at 1:30.

We had a Wisconsin team in Minnesota last week and the coach had a hard time figuring out he needed to be at the 12 minute conference.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re

We had a Wisconsin team in Minnesota last week and the coach had a hard time figuring out he needed to be at the 12 minute conference.

Is that a requirement in your state? The conference at a certain time is only a recommendation that is not always followed for multiple reasons.

Peace

[bas2456]

If I were one of the coaches, I just wouldn't sit down.

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

When do you all intend to join the rest of us in following what NF wants?

In AZ we don't do it either. We do captains at 8:00 and coaches @ 2:00.

[packersowner]

Whats the purpose for two different meetings? Or is the coaches meeting just a quick intro, "Hey, I'm Dewey and these are my partners Chet and Howe" Or are you doing something more formal during this time, like asking for game administrator, noting any specific court or other items, etc?

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by packersowner

Whats the purpose for two different meetings? Or is the coaches meeting just a quick intro, "Hey, I'm Dewey and these are my partners Chet and Howe" Or are you doing something more formal during this time, like asking for game administrator, noting any specific court or other items, etc?

We walk from our positions opposite the table over to the visiting bench, shake coaches hands, introduce ourselves, and I say, "coach, have your team ready to play on the 2nd horn and do you have any questions?" Then do the same for the home team.

Afterwards we are in front of the table for the anthem and lineups. Takes about 15 seconds per bench. My captains meetings may take 30 seconds. So about 1 minute combined for all of it.

If VHSL and/or my association ask us to change then I'll do what is asked but honestly it has never come up in my 10 plus years of officiating in this state. I'm pretty sure it was the same protocol when I played HS ball in the mid 90s, and I believe its done the same way in MD, where I worked for several years as well.

[grunewar]

Co-Head Coaches?

Luke Walton is curious as to which one gets credit for the victories/losses?