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Old Mon Dec 28, 2015, 12:55am
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There is an ncaa m case play wherein there is 30 seconds on the clock when the ball is inbounded to team A in its BC. At 17 seconds, A still in BC. The ruling is violation and put the game clock back at 20.

NFHS plays say time can be corrected if clock isnt stopped at the time of the whistle. I would think that anybody using a shot clock would have rules specific to these situations. If they dont, your stuck with regular nfhs timing rules. Whistle rules.
BigCat, I think you misread (or misremembered, to quote Andy Pettitte) that A.R. NCAAW has the same case play:

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A.R. 223. With 30 seconds on the shot clock, Team A inbounds the ball. The shot clock and the 10-second backcourt count begin when A2 legally touches the ball. While still in the backcourt, Team B causes the ball to go out of bounds. The official checks the clock after the whistle and both the game and shot clock stop on the whistle, so there is no timing mistake. The official realizes that the shot clock displays 17 seconds and there should have been a 10-second backcourt violation when the shot clock reached 20 and Team A still had the ball in their backcourt.
RULING: All three officials have erred by missing the 10-second backcourt violation. All three officials must be aware of the shot clock and know when a team has had continuous control in the backcourt for 10 seconds. Clearly, this has not happened in this play so the out-of-bounds violation must be penalized. (Rule 9-10)
I didn't include the last line of the A.R. because it isn't relevant to the conversation but it does not call for any time to be put back on the game clock.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:22am
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BigCat, I think you misread (or misremembered, to quote Andy Pettitte) that A.R. NCAAW has the same case play:
Jet, you misremembered that it was Roger Clemens not Andy Pettite
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2015, 07:45am
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BigCat, I think you misread (or misremembered, to quote Andy Pettitte) that A.R. NCAAW has the same case play:



I didn't include the last line of the A.R. because it isn't relevant to the conversation but it does not call for any time to be put back on the game clock.
The men's play, 2016 case book-- AR 208, does say reset game clock to when violation occurred.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2015, 08:40am
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The men's play, 2016 case book-- AR 208, does say reset game clock to when violation occurred.
It's pretty much the exact opposite of the NCAAW ruling for the exact same play.

NCAAM: go back and get the violation, reset the clock, give the ball to B.

NCAAW: no violation, no clock reset, keep the ball with A.
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