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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:41am
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd introduce myself as "Mr." anything.

I've had partners do that....I usually jump in and say, "I'm Rich."

Of course I also call all coaches by their first names, as well.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:30pm
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd introduce myself as "Mr." anything.

I've had partners do that....I usually jump in and say, "I'm Rich."
You might be inadvertantly undermining your partners by doing this. I can see this if you're officiating your peers, but high school kids? Just like teachers and administrators, there's a level of respect that comes with the officiating position.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:33pm
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You might be inadvertantly undermining your partners by doing this. I can see this if you're officiating your peers, but high school kids? Just like teachers and administrators, there's a level of respect that comes with the officiating position.
Well, I was kidding, mainly.

Actually, we don't do the whole, "Hi, this is....." thing. If someone does that at a captain's meeting, I don't hear it, cause usually when we're not the R, we leave the meeting after the introductions and go back to our pregame spots.

I introduce myself to the captains as I'm shaking their hands, one at a time. I'm still Rich, though.

I'm wearing stripes and I'm 30 years older than the players. If that's not enough to get some level of respect, forcing them to call me "Mr. LastName" isn't going to do it.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:55pm
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I know I've said this before and I'll say it again. I wish I didn't have to do any meetings. That said, if you have to meet with the Captains, make the most of it by:

1. Recognizing that their attention span will be 30 seconds at best. They want to get back to warming up. So keep it brief.

2. Quick blurb about new rules or POEs (in Nov/Dec only; drop it after the New Year).

3. Make a quick quip, or do something else that's probably out of the ordinary to make them smile. The Santa bit mentioned above was great. I've seen other examples. Bottom line is if they see you as an enjoyable adult to be on the court with instead of some strict authority figure, paradoxically you're less likely to be resisted and thus you'll be treated with more respect. Get the players on your side. Your game will be better.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:30pm
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd introduce myself as "Mr." anything.

I've had partners do that....I usually jump in and say, "I'm Rich."

Of course I also call all coaches by their first names, as well.
Why do you have to jump in like it's a contest? Just say "I'm Rich" when they get to you without thinking you're better than you partner for using your first name.

I don't know coaches names. From me, kids get "Mr. A-hole", coaches get "Imma".
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:32pm
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Why do you have to jump in like it's a contest? Just say "I'm Rich" without thinking you're better than you partner for using your first name.

I don't know coaches names. Kids get "Mr. A-hole", coaches get "Imma".
I was joking. I mentioned that in a subsequent post. We introduce ourselves as we're shaking hands.
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd introduce myself as "Mr." anything.

I've had partners do that....I usually jump in and say, "I'm Rich."

Of course I also call all coaches by their first names, as well.
I do not want any high school kid calling my by my first name. Maybe it is a cultural thing (and it is) but they are not allowed to call me by my first name as I do did not call adults at that age by my first name.

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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:26pm
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1. Are your players properly equip? (To coaches)

2. We have well marked coaches boxes, so please stay in them during the contest (To coaches).

3. Who is my speaking captain? (To players)

4. This is an IHSA contest played under National Federation Rules, we are going to adhere to sportsmanship.

I usual add and they pay attention: If we are talking to you, listen. If we stop talking to you, we will put air in the whistle, so listen.

5: Do you have anything to add (To partners).

6: Have fun...

Then we break.

Usually takes 30 seconds total when I start talking after introductions.

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Usually takes 30 minutes total when I start talking after introductions.

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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:33pm
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You must be related to my dad.
Too busy watching HGTV with a certain person and hearing all this stuff about time.

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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:35pm
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No one in my state realizes speaking captains isn't a thing anymore. Even if I'm the R my partners will either tell me who they discovered is the speaking captain or if I don't ask during the meeting they will interject and ask anyway. Drives me nuts.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:44pm
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I do not want any high school kid calling my by my first name. Maybe it is a cultural thing (and it is) but they are not allowed to call me by my first name as I do did not call adults at that age by my first name.

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That's your right. But I also have the right to let people call me whatever I want.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 03:15pm
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That's your right. But I also have the right to let people call me whatever I want.
Never suggested what you should do either way. I just think there is nothing wrong with have some sense of respect for an adult. That is part of the problem with kids today, they think adults are their equals and often are part of the problem I see we deal with as officials often. It seems like in every game I have a kid talking to me about something even when they are not involved and when I was coming up, that was never allowed by us. Coaches talked to officials, we listened to the coach.

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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:48pm
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I do not want any high school kid calling my by my first name. Maybe it is a cultural thing (and it is) but they are not allowed to call me by my first name as I do did not call adults at that age by my first name.
So you don't let kids do it now because you couldn't do it when you were their age? Makes sense.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:49pm
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So you don't let kids do it now because you couldn't do it when you were their age? Makes sense.
I don't let kids call me by my first name either. And I don't let my minor children call adults by their first names. Is there a problem with that?
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