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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:31pm
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Tonight I said, "The IHSA requires that I mention sportsmanship. More importantly, Santa is coming this week and you don't want to be on the wrong list."

Ha!! I've been saying that all month, or at least something about Santa is watching so be good sports.


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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:09pm
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First and foremost, have fun tonight.
Respect the game.
Respect your opponents.
Respect us as your referees.
If you have any questions during the game feel free to ask and we will give you a quick answer and then we'll move on.
Any questions now?
Good luck. Have fun.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:00am
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Quick introductions with Mr._______ being our names

Tell captains that they may respectfully ask questions during the game

Tell captains they are in charge of their team on the floor and that I would appreciate if they would take care of any issues. If I have to take care of them, we shoot free throws.

Verify with the coaches that the teams are legally equipped
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:29am
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My captain's meeting goes like this.

"We expect good sportsmanship. Any questions?"

With coaches its a "hi" and "good luck"

NY state forces pregame sportsmanship meeting with both teams at half court. Waste of time and it doesn't really change anything.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:41am
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd introduce myself as "Mr." anything.

I've had partners do that....I usually jump in and say, "I'm Rich."

Of course I also call all coaches by their first names, as well.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:30pm
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd introduce myself as "Mr." anything.

I've had partners do that....I usually jump in and say, "I'm Rich."
You might be inadvertantly undermining your partners by doing this. I can see this if you're officiating your peers, but high school kids? Just like teachers and administrators, there's a level of respect that comes with the officiating position.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:33pm
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You might be inadvertantly undermining your partners by doing this. I can see this if you're officiating your peers, but high school kids? Just like teachers and administrators, there's a level of respect that comes with the officiating position.
Well, I was kidding, mainly.

Actually, we don't do the whole, "Hi, this is....." thing. If someone does that at a captain's meeting, I don't hear it, cause usually when we're not the R, we leave the meeting after the introductions and go back to our pregame spots.

I introduce myself to the captains as I'm shaking their hands, one at a time. I'm still Rich, though.

I'm wearing stripes and I'm 30 years older than the players. If that's not enough to get some level of respect, forcing them to call me "Mr. LastName" isn't going to do it.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:30pm
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd introduce myself as "Mr." anything.

I've had partners do that....I usually jump in and say, "I'm Rich."

Of course I also call all coaches by their first names, as well.
Why do you have to jump in like it's a contest? Just say "I'm Rich" when they get to you without thinking you're better than you partner for using your first name.

I don't know coaches names. From me, kids get "Mr. A-hole", coaches get "Imma".
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:32pm
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Why do you have to jump in like it's a contest? Just say "I'm Rich" without thinking you're better than you partner for using your first name.

I don't know coaches names. Kids get "Mr. A-hole", coaches get "Imma".
I was joking. I mentioned that in a subsequent post. We introduce ourselves as we're shaking hands.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:20pm
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It would be a cold day in hell before I'd introduce myself as "Mr." anything.

I've had partners do that....I usually jump in and say, "I'm Rich."

Of course I also call all coaches by their first names, as well.
I do not want any high school kid calling my by my first name. Maybe it is a cultural thing (and it is) but they are not allowed to call me by my first name as I do did not call adults at that age by my first name.

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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:26pm
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1. Are your players properly equip? (To coaches)

2. We have well marked coaches boxes, so please stay in them during the contest (To coaches).

3. Who is my speaking captain? (To players)

4. This is an IHSA contest played under National Federation Rules, we are going to adhere to sportsmanship.

I usual add and they pay attention: If we are talking to you, listen. If we stop talking to you, we will put air in the whistle, so listen.

5: Do you have anything to add (To partners).

6: Have fun...

Then we break.

Usually takes 30 seconds total when I start talking after introductions.

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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:44pm
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I do not want any high school kid calling my by my first name. Maybe it is a cultural thing (and it is) but they are not allowed to call me by my first name as I do did not call adults at that age by my first name.

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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:48pm
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I do not want any high school kid calling my by my first name. Maybe it is a cultural thing (and it is) but they are not allowed to call me by my first name as I do did not call adults at that age by my first name.
So you don't let kids do it now because you couldn't do it when you were their age? Makes sense.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:14pm
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I do not want any high school kid calling my by my first name. Maybe it is a cultural thing (and it is) but they are not allowed to call me by my first name as I do did not call adults at that age by my first name.

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Jeff:

I agree with you 100%. I am an old geezer (and you are also probably getting old, ) and I was taught that anybody under the age of 18 did not address an adult by his or her first name. Even in Junior's first year of officiating when he was a senior in high school he introduced himself in jr. varsity games as Mr. DeNucci. I do not expect the players to remember my last name but I will respond to: Ref, Mr. Ref, Stripes, and even Blue (it is an umpiring thing), as long as it is done in a sportsmanlike manner.

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