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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:50pm
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Are these incidents like a POE this year or what? Since when has subbing between quarters been such an issue or paid attention to?

Usually at TO's this does come up from time to time when a sub checks in after the warning horn but I don't think tables really "pay" that much attention during the game if a player doesn't check in.

In any case this would be a team T for 10-1-6 or possible 10-1-9.

10-2 would only apply before the ball becomes live.
You let subs in if they check in after the first horn?
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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:02pm
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You let subs in if they check in after the first horn?
If a sub doesn't check in at the table and just comes in the game how the heck would I know. Unless the coach sends in a completely different 5 and I noticed no one went to the table I have no clue. I also have no idea who checks in between quarters, ESPECIALLY if the just walk onto the court at part of the 5 players.

IOW I don't track who is in and who is out. In most cases I notice when a player goes out to keep track of when they can come back in, but even then that is not 100% of the time. We cannot keep track of everything.

But if a player goes to check in AFTER the warning horn then he/she isn't coming in the game, if I notice this. The smart thing would be to not even check in and just enter. 99 out of 100 times no one will be the wiser.
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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:47pm
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The smart thing would be to not even check in and just enter. 99 out of 100 times no one will be the wiser.
I've always thought this too. I'm not about to go out and advertise it, but I know in virtually all my games, this probably wouldn't get caught.
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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:05pm
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If a sub doesn't check in at the table and just comes in the game how the heck would I know. Unless the coach sends in a completely different 5 and I noticed no one went to the table I have no clue. I also have no idea who checks in between quarters, ESPECIALLY if the just walk onto the court at part of the 5 players.

IOW I don't track who is in and who is out. In most cases I notice when a player goes out to keep track of when they can come back in, but even then that is not 100% of the time. We cannot keep track of everything.

But if a player goes to check in AFTER the warning horn then he/she isn't coming in the game, if I notice this. The smart thing would be to not even check in and just enter. 99 out of 100 times no one will be the wiser.
So what are you doing during the time out? Here most games are 2 man mechanics, so the administrating official is at the half court line. It's extremely easy to watch the table during the timeout. Your going to know if someone tried to check in after the first horn, even with 3 man mechanics this can be done. I will agree that if they just come in straight from the bench to floor, it would be much harder to recognize.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:40am
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So what are you doing during the time out? Here most games are 2 man mechanics, so the administrating official is at the half court line. It's extremely easy to watch the table during the timeout. Your going to know if someone tried to check in after the first horn, even with 3 man mechanics this can be done. I will agree that if they just come in straight from the bench to floor, it would be much harder to recognize.
I would suggest you go back and read all my posts.
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