Sub T or Team T?

[billyu2]

[QUOTE=BigCat;973600]

Originally Posted by billyu2

The section you have cited assumes the player has reported before the warning horn. He then doesn't have to be beckoned. When he is late he has to be beckoned at next opportunity. Also, the official put the ball on the floor. That is "at disposal" and ball is live. Quarter starts then even though clock hasn't run.

Yep, I thought of that as well but too late. On the other hand, 4-34-3: if entry is not legal, the substitute becomes a player when the ball becomes live. So, are we now back to six players on the court? Team tech?

[deecee]

[QUOTE=billyu2;973608]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Yep, I thought of that as well but too late. On the other hand, 4-34-3: if entry is not legal, the substitute becomes a player when the ball becomes live. So, are we now back to six players on the court? Team tech?

You only have 6 on the court IF THERE IS 6 on the court.

[BigCat]

[QUOTE=billyu2;973608]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Yep, I thought of that as well but too late. On the other hand, 4-34-3: if entry is not legal, the substitute becomes a player when the ball becomes live. So, are we now back to six players on the court? Team tech?

Billy, I'm not sure how you got my name above your quote...above


If a substitute runs onto the floor during a live ball without being beckoned you have until the ball becomes live after first dead ball to penalize for not being beckoned. There's a case play in rule 10. In this Op the ball was live when the player ran in. Technically, if you catch it before the time limit and you know which player came in it is a sub tech. If you don't know which player ran in you have the team tech for 6 on floor.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

Are these incidents like a POE this year or what? Since when has subbing between quarters been such an issue or paid attention to?

Substitutions between quarters was a POE a couple of seasons ago.

Originally Posted by BigCat

If a substitute runs onto the floor during a live ball without being beckoned you have until the ball becomes live after first dead ball to penalize for not being beckoned. There's a case play in rule 10. In this Op the ball was live when the player ran in. Technically, if you catch it before the time limit and you know which player came in it is a sub tech. If you don't know which player ran in you have the team tech for 6 on floor.

I'm going to challenge you to provide the case play giving your stated time frame to catch a substitute coming onto the court.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Substitutions between quarters was a POE a couple of seasons ago.


I'm going to challenge you to provide the case play giving your stated time frame to catch a substitute coming onto the court.

10.2.2. It's out of thin air but it is there....

NOT REPORTING-NOT BEING BECKONED

10.2.2
During a live ball, and with the clock running, Substitute A6 enters the Court.RULING A technical foul is charged if recognized by an official before the ball becomes live following the first dead ball.

[Nevadaref]

Thanks, I had this confused with 10.1.6 (b).