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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:51am
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Had an association meeting tonight.
The overwhelming consensus was that getting my young partner to safety immediately... was the best course of action. Since the coaches' act began on the court and safety was the only reason I left, the group felt that going back, especially since I hadn't reach the dressing room, and whacking that _____ assistant coach was something they stand behind.
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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:36am
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Had an association meeting tonight.
The overwhelming consensus was that getting my young partner to safety immediately... was the best course of action. Since the coaches' act began on the court and safety was the only reason I left, the group felt that going back, especially since I hadn't reach the dressing room, and whacking that _____ assistant coach was something they stand behind.
This is stuff I would include in my report to my assignor/state. I still wouldn't go out to the court to report the T cause you're not supported by rule...and when it comes to ejections and possible suspensions, I want to be supported by rule.

I would hope that the sanctioning body would take all the facts into account included in a report and...in this scenario...adjudicate the proper punishment, just as if an official was able to stay on the court to assess a post game T.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:58am
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Had an association meeting tonight.
The overwhelming consensus was that getting my young partner to safety immediately... was the best course of action. Since the coaches' act began on the court and safety was the only reason I left, the group felt that going back, especially since I hadn't reach the dressing room, and whacking that _____ assistant coach was something they stand behind.
It's kind of unfortunate that NO ONE in your association knows the relevant rules here.

Consider a very slightly modified version ... say the asst's team won by one point. You decide to usher off your partner to safety, then go back. Teams are gone - and you issue your technical foul.

If it is legal for you to issue this technical foul... B GETS SHOTS, and could change the result of the game.

Your issuance of the T was improper... no matter how many uneducated officials you find to agree with you.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:32am
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It's kind of unfortunate that NO ONE in your association knows the relevant rules here.

Consider a very slightly modified version ... say the asst's team won by one point. You decide to usher off your partner to safety, then go back. Teams are gone - and you issue your technical foul.

If it is legal for you to issue this technical foul... B GETS SHOTS, and could change the result of the game.

Your issuance of the T was improper... no matter how many uneducated officials you find to agree with you.
I somewhat agree but I also don't. In the case where the officials feel threatened, suspend the game and let the authorities deal with what to do. Would I stay in a gym where I felt threatened? @#$@ NO.

I also would not have gone back in but just filed my report with my assignor, and anyone else that needs to be notified.
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I somewhat agree but I also don't. In the case where the officials feel threatened, suspend the game and let the authorities deal with what to do. Would I stay in a gym where I felt threatened? @#$@ NO.

I also would not have gone back in but just filed my report with my assignor, and anyone else that needs to be notified.
Sounds like you completely agree. He shouldn't have gone back out there. it was improper and inappropriate (and possibly dangerous).
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:44am
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Sounds like you completely agree. He shouldn't have gone back out there. it was improper and inappropriate (and possibly dangerous).
I disagree that the T was improper. We don't have to shoot the shots, the game is suspended and the folks that make the big bucks can determine what to do from there.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:46am
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I disagree that the T was improper. We don't have to shoot the shots, the game is suspended and the folks that make the big bucks can determine what to do from there.
The game was not suspended ... the game was over and the officials were headed to the locker room. Issuing a T after the officials have left the visual confines of the court is improper. By rule.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:47am
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The T was earned before they left. They left because they thought it was unsafe. One returned to mark the T in the book. That's the step I would have left out, and just considered it suspended.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:53am
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Had an association meeting tonight.
The overwhelming consensus was that getting my young partner to safety immediately... was the best course of action. Since the coaches' act began on the court and safety was the only reason I left, the group felt that going back, especially since I hadn't reach the dressing room, and whacking that _____ assistant coach was something they stand behind.
Jurisdiction is fundamental. When you have it, you have the authority/power to act. When you dont have it, you have no authority/power to act. There's no middle ground. If your state follows the concept of jurisdiction they will say that attempting to eject him after you left the visual confines is invalid. Hopefully, and likely, he will be suspended anyway. It just wont be automatic for an ejection. If safety was a concern you did the right thing going off with your partner.

Put the safety reasons in your report.
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