Who should call the timeout.

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by Adam

No, the situation determines who is in the better position to be looking and listening to the coach. If action is that intense, the L should be looking. The OP is asking (I think) which official should be looking and then incorrectly (we think) labels the officials.

BNR isn't trying to be a dick, he's trying to understand the question better so he can answer it.

And to make it clear I didn't think that anyone was trying to be a dick.... and neither an I.

I realize that one MAY BE in a better position but it still should be the one that sees and hears the request being made regardless of his position on the floor.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

And to make it clear I didn't think that anyone was trying to be a dick.... and neither an I.

I realize that one MAY BE in a better position but it still should be the one that sees and hears the request being made regardless of his position on the floor.

I really didn't think you were, or that you were accusing him of doing it. I was being a bit proactive, I suppose, knowing where these things tend to go. It wasn't really fair to you to put it in there, though.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

I don't think that is necessary... Does the situation really determine who grants the TO? Whomever hears and sees the coach asking for the TO should blow the damn whistle..

If there is something in the officials manual that says something different please show me where to find it.

Well, if there is a trap going on in the BC, the person with the least going on at that moment is almost always going to be the new Lead. If I'm him, I'm keeping an eye on the coach. Plus since this is the end of the game, the Lead is also going to be closest to the HC requesting the time-out.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, if there is a trap going on in the BC, the person with the least going on at that moment is almost always going to be the new Lead. If I'm him, I'm keeping an eye on the coach. Plus since this is the end of the game, the Lead is also going to be closest to the HC requesting the time-out.

Not really true. Sometimes it'll be the case.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, if there is a trap going on in the BC, the person with the least going on at that moment is almost always going to be the new Lead. If I'm him, I'm keeping an eye on the coach. Plus since this is the end of the game, the Lead is also going to be closest to the HC requesting the time-out.

Originally Posted by Dad

Not really true. Sometimes it'll be the case.

Do you just answer to be contradictory? If it is only sometimes, please explain.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Do you just answer to be contradictory? If it is only sometimes, please explain.

Half the time the C should be closest to the coach when the lead is opposite table side. The other half the coaches are in your field of vision.

I'm fine with the lead getting it, but I think the C is picking this up a lot.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Dad

Half the time the C should be closest to the coach when the lead is opposite table side. The other half the coaches are in your field of vision.

I'm fine with the lead getting it, but I think the C is picking this up a lot.

It's the 2nd half, last minute of the game, 2 point difference. There is a press in the BC, which means the C SHOULD be helping the Trail with press coverage in the BC. The offensive HC is in the FC. The new Lead is either across the court and can see the offensive HC in his direct line of site, or he is on the same sideline and the offensive HC is in earshot.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Dad

Half the time the C should be closest to the coach when the lead is opposite table side. The other half the coaches are in your field of vision.

I'm fine with the lead getting it, but I think the C is picking this up a lot.

If it's a press in the backcourt, the guy most likely to be able to see and grant the time out would be the lead. The trail and C are with the press.

[so cal lurker]

This all goes back to why coaches shouldn't be permitted to call, er, request time outs when the ball is live . . . maybe it's just me watching through daddy goggles or the games I'm watching, but it seems to me that referees (I'm watching HS JV) too often grant the coach's "save my player" TOs when the player has already lost control and does not regain control, which I have thought was likely because they had to split attention . . .

[Dad]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

This all goes back to why coaches shouldn't be permitted to call, er, request time outs when the ball is live . . . maybe it's just me watching through daddy goggles or the games I'm watching, but it seems to me that referees (I'm watching HS JV) too often grant the coach's "save my player" TOs when the player has already lost control and does not regain control, which I have thought was likely because they had to split attention . . .

This isn't a reason to change a pivotal role coaches play in coaching their team. If a crew messes this up, which I've seen to be extremely rare, it's not a basis for completely changing the game.