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Old Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:08am
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I need the OP re-written so I can understand what was going on. "The winning team is trying to break the press and the ball is still in the back court." / "still the lead/ transitioning to the trail"
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:38am
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I need the OP re-written so I can understand what was going on. "The winning team is trying to break the press and the ball is still in the back court." / "still the lead/ transitioning to the trail"
I don't think that is necessary... Does the situation really determine who grants the TO? Whomever hears and sees the coach asking for the TO should blow the damn whistle..

If there is something in the officials manual that says something different please show me where to find it.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:02pm
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I don't think that is necessary... Does the situation really determine who grants the TO? Whomever hears and sees the coach asking for the TO should blow the damn whistle..

If there is something in the officials manual that says something different please show me where to find it.
No, the situation determines who is in the better position to be looking and listening to the coach. If action is that intense, the L should be looking. The OP is asking (I think) which official should be looking and then incorrectly (we think) labels the officials.

BNR isn't trying to be a dick, he's trying to understand the question better so he can answer it.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:22pm
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No, the situation determines who is in the better position to be looking and listening to the coach. If action is that intense, the L should be looking. The OP is asking (I think) which official should be looking and then incorrectly (we think) labels the officials.

BNR isn't trying to be a dick, he's trying to understand the question better so he can answer it.
And to make it clear I didn't think that anyone was trying to be a dick.... and neither an I.

I realize that one MAY BE in a better position but it still should be the one that sees and hears the request being made regardless of his position on the floor.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:50pm
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And to make it clear I didn't think that anyone was trying to be a dick.... and neither an I.

I realize that one MAY BE in a better position but it still should be the one that sees and hears the request being made regardless of his position on the floor.
I really didn't think you were, or that you were accusing him of doing it. I was being a bit proactive, I suppose, knowing where these things tend to go. It wasn't really fair to you to put it in there, though.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:03pm
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I don't think that is necessary... Does the situation really determine who grants the TO? Whomever hears and sees the coach asking for the TO should blow the damn whistle..

If there is something in the officials manual that says something different please show me where to find it.
Well, if there is a trap going on in the BC, the person with the least going on at that moment is almost always going to be the new Lead. If I'm him, I'm keeping an eye on the coach. Plus since this is the end of the game, the Lead is also going to be closest to the HC requesting the time-out.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:20pm
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Well, if there is a trap going on in the BC, the person with the least going on at that moment is almost always going to be the new Lead. If I'm him, I'm keeping an eye on the coach. Plus since this is the end of the game, the Lead is also going to be closest to the HC requesting the time-out.
Not really true. Sometimes it'll be the case.
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