L signaling a good 3

[bas2456]

Interesting.

The concern would be then on threes from the L's primary that you end up with four eyes on the ball in flight and none on rebounding action.

Just another thing to go over in pregame.


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[OKREF]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Interesting.

The concern would be then on threes from the L's primary that you end up with four eyes on the ball in flight and none on rebounding action.

Just another thing to go over in pregame.


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Why would there be four eyes on the ball? If the three is in the L's primary, than the trail is looking off ball and rebounding action as the lead is staying with the shooter. The trail will only mirror the make.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Why would there be four eyes on the ball? If the three is in the L's primary, than the trail is looking off ball and rebounding action as the lead is staying with the shooter. The trail will only mirror the make.

That's why you pregame it. To eliminate the concern.


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[Rich]

Originally Posted by bas2456

That's why you pregame it. To eliminate the concern.


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I wonder how long some of these pregames are. If I have to tell a partner to take a jump-shooter to the floor in his primary, it's gonna be a long night.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Why would there be four eyes on the ball? If the three is in the L's primary, than the trail is looking off ball and rebounding action as the lead is staying with the shooter. The trail will only mirror the make.

You do not know a ball goes in the basket without looking at the ball? That sounds odd.

And not all shooters are contested either. At some point the L is going to have to get off of the shooter and go to basic rebounding action. There are some sacrifices, but let us not make it sound like the L never has an angle if the ball goes in or is totally aware. The players if nothing else tell us when the ball goes in by their actions.

Peace

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You do not know a ball goes in the basket without looking at the ball? That sounds odd.

And not all shooters are contested either. At some point the L is going to have to get off of the shooter and go to basic rebounding action. There are some sacrifices, but let us not make it sound like the L never has an angle if the ball goes in or is totally aware. The players if nothing else tell us when the ball goes in by their actions.

Peace

My point was why would the trail be watching the shooter in the leads primary? He should be off the ball. I understand that the lead will eventually have to see the ball go in the basket, hopefully we are in a position to see that. I know that when I am in the lead and have a shooter in my primary I get an angle to see the shooter and flight of the ball.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by OKREF

My point was why would the trail be watching the shooter in the leads primary? He should be off the ball. I understand that the lead will eventually have to see the ball go in the basket, hopefully we are in a position to see that. I know that when I am in the lead and have a shooter in my primary I get an angle to see the shooter and flight of the ball.

I don't have to see the ball go in. Is someone going to foul the ball?

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Interesting.

The concern would be then on threes from the L's primary that you end up with four eyes on the ball in flight and none on rebounding action.

Just another thing to go over in pregame.


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As Lead, I see little reason to track the flight of the ball.

As Lead, I give the 3-point attempt signal, and take care of the shooter. You will see the ball go through the hoop with your peripheral vision, (and the players next actions will be a huge clue as to whether the shot was successful). Once that a jumpshooter is back down on the floor, and not in peril of late contact from a defender, one's primary focus can shift to the rebounding and other actions, and the shooter and his/her defender become the peripheral.
Some officials, having squared up to the floor to cover the 3-point attempt, will then rotate slightly towards the basket while continuing to "protect the shooter."
Getting "deep" off the endline, and as wide on the endline as the shooter/defender match-up, can be very helpful in expanding one's field of vision, and maximizing the peripheral area to include the players further away from a primary match-up/shot attempt, and then, the shooter/defender match-up, as the main focus becomes the subsequent rebounding action.

Less experienced officials tend to focus on a player, or a match-up, to the degree of not utilizing their peripheral vision/info. A more experienced official is able to relax and be aware of a larger area, including the missed/made shot attempt, while not losing his/her primary responsibility.