L signaling a good 3

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Interesting.

The concern would be then on threes from the L's primary that you end up with four eyes on the ball in flight and none on rebounding action.

Just another thing to go over in pregame.


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Why would there be four eyes on the ball? If the three is in the L's primary, than the trail is looking off ball and rebounding action as the lead is staying with the shooter. The trail will only mirror the make.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Why would there be four eyes on the ball? If the three is in the L's primary, than the trail is looking off ball and rebounding action as the lead is staying with the shooter. The trail will only mirror the make.

That's why you pregame it. To eliminate the concern.


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[Rich]

Originally Posted by bas2456

That's why you pregame it. To eliminate the concern.


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I wonder how long some of these pregames are. If I have to tell a partner to take a jump-shooter to the floor in his primary, it's gonna be a long night.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Why would there be four eyes on the ball? If the three is in the L's primary, than the trail is looking off ball and rebounding action as the lead is staying with the shooter. The trail will only mirror the make.

You do not know a ball goes in the basket without looking at the ball? That sounds odd.

And not all shooters are contested either. At some point the L is going to have to get off of the shooter and go to basic rebounding action. There are some sacrifices, but let us not make it sound like the L never has an angle if the ball goes in or is totally aware. The players if nothing else tell us when the ball goes in by their actions.

Peace

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You do not know a ball goes in the basket without looking at the ball? That sounds odd.

And not all shooters are contested either. At some point the L is going to have to get off of the shooter and go to basic rebounding action. There are some sacrifices, but let us not make it sound like the L never has an angle if the ball goes in or is totally aware. The players if nothing else tell us when the ball goes in by their actions.

Peace

My point was why would the trail be watching the shooter in the leads primary? He should be off the ball. I understand that the lead will eventually have to see the ball go in the basket, hopefully we are in a position to see that. I know that when I am in the lead and have a shooter in my primary I get an angle to see the shooter and flight of the ball.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by OKREF

My point was why would the trail be watching the shooter in the leads primary? He should be off the ball. I understand that the lead will eventually have to see the ball go in the basket, hopefully we are in a position to see that. I know that when I am in the lead and have a shooter in my primary I get an angle to see the shooter and flight of the ball.

I don't have to see the ball go in. Is someone going to foul the ball?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't have to see the ball go in. Is someone going to foul the ball?

No, but you make a lot of sacrifices in calling 3 person. Not every shot is a contested one, certainly not every 3 point shot and once the shot is over, we have to move on anyway. There are situations where you have to stay longer, but not as common.

Peace

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't have to see the ball go in. Is someone going to foul the ball?

I get it. You know by the reaction of the players if the shot was made.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I get it. You know by the reaction of the players if the shot was made.

Crowd too. And they certainly react when a 3 point shot is made.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You do not know a ball goes in the basket without looking at the ball?

In thirty-five years, twice, as the lead, I did not get a chance to see the ball go in, or not go in, and screwed up. In both cases I was very intent on watching a troublesome matchup in my primary. Once I assumed the ball went in, when it didn't (it actually went out of bounds, I didn't make the call, and the players just made their own throwin before my partner killed the play). Another time, I made an out of bounds call on my endline when the ball actually went quickly through a very loose net and went directly out of bounds. I got help from my partner then as well.